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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Suppressing a 5.56mm can mask origin point and flash but is still pretty loud.
From my experience with suppressed pistols, .22LR and .45acp are best.
In the right hands a suppressed Ruger Mark II or III is a serious tool.
I have practiced half-second triple taps on melons.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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BANG.
You're dead.
Did I win?
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xtrmecat
Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
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Just purchased my first suppressor. 22 caliber, fits three long guns. Can hardly wait until I can take legal delivery and tune the three different systems.
Burly Bob
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Dale, I would be psyched to have a Nosler manual if you want to get rid of it! It would fit in nicely with the Lyman, Sierra, Hornady, and Speer manuals that I have now. Been loading some Nosler 155gr and 168gr BTHP rounds. What can I send you in return?
Is this the one?
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xtrmecat
Big Wall climber
Kalispell, Montanagonia
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Ricky D.
The only fight you win , gunfight or other , is the one you are able to avoid.
Burly Bob
As an after thought , you probably are not a good candidate for gun ownership.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Regarding suppressors… The quietest that I’ve ever shot is a bolt-action .45 ACP on an Enfield action. Super quiet. The loudest thing heard was the bullet smacking the target (a tree). I believe the Brits used something like this during WWII to take out dogs or Germans in guard towers without making any noise. .45 ACP is a great suppressed round.
A friend has a suppressor on a .308 in an AR-10 platform. You can shoot it without hearing protection but it’s not at all “quiet.” Same deal with .223 – not very quiet, but a suppressor does help, and as Piton mentioned above, a suppressor helps to “hide” the location of the shooter. A bolt-action will always be quieter than a semi-auto when using a suppressor, for obvious reasons. Do you want a suppressed pistol or a suppressed carbine?
Just built a 9mm AR pistol on a designated 9mm lower and will eventually turn it into an SBR with a suppressor. 7” barrel. 147gr XTP rounds, loaded subsonic, should work nicely.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I thought suppressors were illegal? (I'm being serious, for a change)
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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In Kalifornia… Not in the Free Lands.
$200 tax stamp to the ATFE with a background check by your local Sheriff and the Feds for each suppressor or firearm. Same deal for automatic weapons and short barreled rifles (SBRs). And then you wait and wait and wait. Then they give you your paperwork.
EDIT:
Anyone have any experience with the 6.8 SPC round?
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Anyone have any experience with the 6.8 SPC round?
No, but I've shot the 6.8 Grendel. Surprisingly flat shooting, has good range and knock down power without much kick. I had a comparison chart for 5.56, SPC, Grendel 7.62x39&51 but can't seem to find it. Thinking about building a Grendel on an AR platform instead of another AR-10.
I'll have to look into what exactly I can and can't get over here in CommieKali. Some things are on "the list" and some aren't. I usually can't get exactly what I want, but there's always something close.
I thought suppressors were illegal? (I'm being serious, for a change)
They are in California. People watch too much TV here to have an actual sense of reality.
Kalifornia, where we're promising a utopia one constitutional right at a time. On the bright side, even though our economy and schools are almost dead last, we have been able to reduce our carbon footprint (theoretically) one job at a time. ;)
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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No, but I've shot the 6.8 Grendel.
The Grendel round is 6.5mm. The 6.8 is much more common so ammo, brass, mags, parts, etc. are more readily available than for the 6.5. I’m thinking of building a 6.8 but am not sure if I want to go with a 16” barrel or an 18” barrel.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Ron, hate to break it to ya bro but even a S&W 50 cal ain't gonna touch yer ghost.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Huh?
Do you mean S&W .500 ?
I've shot a 6.5 X 284mm at over 600m.
Like a .22-250 on steroids, flat and fast.
Anybody know if FN's Ballista will soon be chambered in .300WSM ?
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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The Grendel round is 6.5mm.
Oops, that's what I meant. Obviously I need to slow down my typing so my brain can catch up.
The Grendel was SAAIM standardized so there are alot of manufacturers making it now. It also has far superior ballistics, punches harder at distance and reaches way beyond the capabilities of the 6.8. It was purpose built to fit the AR platform so I think all you need is barrel, bolt and mag. I'm probably just going to buy a complete upper and keep things simple. Either way, it's quickly gaining popularity in the shooting world and I wouldn't be surprised if it overtook the 6.8 in sales. There's even rumor the Military is looking into it as a replacement for both the 5.56 and 7.62, but I personally doubt it.
Just saying it's something worth looking into.
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perswig
climber
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Minerals, replied to your email - send an addy.
Also, 6.8 seems such a good carbine/CQ round, 16" would be ample?
Dale
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Yeah, good thing O.J. didn't have a gun.
What a complete moron. Is he so conceded that he actually believes anyone would or should give a sh#t what he thinks?
Does anyone really think taking guns out of the hands of your average responsible citizen is going to make the world a safer place?
"But we only want to ensure that we take guns off the streets and out of the hands of gangs and other irresponsible violent people."
Well, we already have tons of laws that are supposed to do that. See how well that worked?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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They'll pry nature's sushi knife out of his cold dead hand,..
Really Costas!
(He's just asking to be croaked by a texting driver)
edit' I bet Costas is a tosser!
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Still haven't seen any arguments for allowing everybody to possess guns that couldn't be applied equally to possessing sarin (and it's got such a purdy mouf).
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I got no problem with anyone possessing anything.
It's what people do that matters.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Still haven't seen any arguments for allowing everybody to possess guns that couldn't be applied equally to possessing sarin
Sarin is not a very effective means of self defense. Sarin is not very good for hunting game. Sarin is inherently unsafe even in the hands of law abiding citizens. Even the military will not use sarin. Need I go on?
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