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zBrown
Ice climber
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Here's a little thought experiment for JEL and others economically inclined.
Suppose by some weird circumstance Trump's economic "policies" were to be implemented and a world-wide depression ensues.
Who is benefitted/harmed most? The wealthy or the "less wealthy".
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Hillary is planning on finishing some America ruining business for Obama. Turns out these are being stockpiled in the Walmart tunnels..........
Better vote for Trump.
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Frequent stops is pretty damn funny and man if that's not the truth
They might want to start stockpiling semi tractor trailers
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Trump wants to raise the minimum wage and tells Americans' they need to work harder for less pay...Which is it...? Trumps talking out both sides of his mouth just like stalin did...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Here's a little thought experiment for JEL and others economically inclined.
Suppose by some weird circumstance Trump's economic "policies" were to be implemented and a world-wide depression ensues.
Who is benefitted/harmed most? The wealthy or the "less wealthy".
Aren't we already in a bit of a pickle already? But I suppose it could get a lot worse.
The problem is the way you pose your question. Who would benefit if Hillary failed? WHo would benefit is everybody failed?
The wealthy will always be fine. But who will lift the most out of poverty and gov't reliance?
Who would keep the staus quo, and who would steer us into a better direction? A direction of fiscal parity, or even wealth (as a nation)?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Trump in Satanic Cult, according to cult members
Members say "he's been in our cult for decades, this isn't new news"
some say that they saw him eat baby puppies!
"he would wear the sacrificial goat head, and we would chant "Satan, Satan save us"
The Trump campaign has no comment.
http://www.huffingtonpost.trump_satanic_worship_cult
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Trump caught in field having sex with Donkey, video"
Farmer catches Donald Trump having sex with his Donkey, he videos the encounter as Trump runs into the bushes. The farmer tells the media that this is the third time this week he saw Trump, so brought the camera for the video evidence.
Several offers to buy the video have been rejected.
The Trump campaign has no comment.
http://www.foxnews/512%6=id.trump.donkeysex
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zBrown
Ice climber
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The problem is the way you pose your question.
NO. The problem is the way you choose to answer.
No one has proposed or intimated that anybody's policies, but Trump's, would have as even a remote consequence a world-wide depression.
Scan through and check out JEL's posts here.
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Norton
Social climber
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“Cause I like kids. I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park.”
D Trump
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Norton
Social climber
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I'll win states that aren't in play. I'll win states that the Republicans don't even think of. And one of them that comes to mind ... is New York. Upstate New York I'm like the most popular person that's ever lived virtually.
Donald Trump, on CNN's State of the Union
Feb. 21, 2016
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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"…I'm like the most popular person that's ever lived virtually."—some rich as#@&%e, on CNN's State of the Union, Feb. 21, 2016
Herr Drümpf lives in a virtual fantasy world, in his own mind. Actually.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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No one has proposed or intimated that anybody's policies, but Trump's, would have as even a remote consequence a world-wide depression.
Scan through and check out JEL's posts here.
I've heard the theories. All of them. Ask yourself what policies would shift the dire direction we're headed?
When you've propagated bad policy for 10 years, it's going to take a little pain to get things turned around. And then headed in the "correct" direction.
I think Trump's policies are bold and what we need right now. The tariffs are a non-issue for a while. We'll have to see who wants to be "fair" in their trade with us.
Hillary is more of the current direction.
EDIT: Trump used a hexagram (Star of David) as a derogatory symbol in an anti-Hillary tweet.
It's red too!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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I've heard the theories. All of them. Ask yourself what policies would shift the dire direction we're headed?
I'm sure you have all kinds of reasons why you say the future look dire.
I'm not interested in them. I was asking John what he thought about a certain set of predictions.
I think Trump's policies are bold and what we need right now.
Luckily for the U.S. and the world, that is just your thought experiment.
Trump will never be the president and no one else would even consider the "solutions" he's advocating.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Obama, Lynch, Bill C. and all the rest of the Dems Admin are in Crooked HilLIARy's back pocket. No matter how guilty she is, she won't be indicted.
And just wait till she's elected. If she's got that much power now, then what can you say, but more power to her. Maybe she'll offer Trump a new TV show. They need someone to fiddle with the balls like Vanna White only oranger.
http://media.graytvinc.com/images/powerball88.jpg
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Klimmer - Regarding the Clinton paternity issue. The below link is from TIME magazine. It is a reputable news source, unlike th trash receptacles you pull your "news" from.
NEW YORK: Bill Clinton has been dogged for years by the rumor that in Arkansas he fathered a child of an African-American prostitute. In 1992 the tale was flogged by the tabloid Globe. But it really took off last week when news leaked that the tabloid Star was conducting DNA tests to confirm or refute the rumors once and for all, provoking a frenzy of speculation in Washington after the story leapt, in the usual fashion, from the Drudge Report to the New York Post to papers around the world.
Using the Starr Report's FBI analysis of Clinton's DNA as its reference, Star paid former prostitute Bobbie Ann Williams, the source for the Globe article, and her 13-year-old son for their story and blood samples. And the result: "There was no match. Not even close," says a Star source. (The Starr Report contains sufficient data to make a valid DNA comparison to rule out paternity.) But if the tabloid was disappointed by the results, it's putting up a good, Brill's Content-ready front. Says editor in chief Phil Bunton: "We investigate dozens of stories every week, and if they don't prove to be true, we don't run them."�
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,18010,00.html?iid=sr-link1
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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I say no charges against Hillary, because she is not guilty, just like all the other times the republicans have failed to prove any wrongdoings.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Republicans on this thread...hypocrites to the core.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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hey cosmic... have you read up on the head of the fbi?
because comey is the one person that keeps me from thinking as you do [that there is no way, given who is in power, that hillary will be indicted]... and so i'm sure he's the one person that is keeping the backers of hillary up at night, as well...
so while on the surface that plane meeting is hard to read [was it innocuous mutual socio-political buffoonery as they claim, was it a clintonian trap to try to extend the investigation by undermining lynch's position and possibly even having her replaced, was it an exposed attempt at collusion, etc.] so far, what it is doing, is placing more authority in comey...
which, if you're a hillary supporter, is not something that you want.
because comey is the guy who:
 during the bush administration, while acting as attorney general [when ashcroft was hospitalized], first refused to agree to the white house's pressures to certify aspects of the nsa's domestic surveillance and then when card and gonzales went to the hospital to pressure ashcroft personally, comey headed to the hospital as well to continue to push back.
was the one who went after martha stewart.
was a special deputy council during the senate whitewater committee. his and his fellow investigators report said this about the clinton's: their destruction of documents, amounted to “far more than just aggressive lawyering or political naiveté,” and it constituted “a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct.”
as an attorney, successfully prosecuted marc rich for tax evasion. on his way out bill clinton, pardoned marc rich, and it was about this that comey had the following to say to congress: "i was stunned"
point being, as far as anybody in the chattering class appears to know or say, he's nobody's, republican nor democrat's, bitch...
so while there are very strong reasons to believe that nothing will come of the investigation, there are also reasons to have a little faith in the system, regardless of what the fbi finally determines.
because if anybody has legitimate evidence as to why comey is a compromised figure, they certainly haven't succeeded in getting it out there, and they are going to have to have something big, because he has amassed a track record that points to his being a man of the law, rather than a tool of politicians...
regardless of what a person believes about clinton's innocence or lack thereof, a person would be hard pressed to write a better screenplay about this years presidential election...
or if someone did, most focus groups would probably be like, nah that shIts too far fetched:
one of the two presumed remaining presidential candidates has been under a year long fbi criminal investigation and most people don't care?
the head of the fbi, has been part of in depth investigations of the candidate 20ish years ago?
the husband of the candidate under investigation is having a strange house of cards styled meeting, for god knows what reason, on a private plane sitting on the tarmac, with the present attorney general, who is ultimately responsible for whether charges are pressed?
not to mention the thousand or so true to life points of trump's story that would be completely unbelievable if they were passed off as fiction.
who needs hbo when you've got real life, ever unfolding political theatre like this!
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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heh, heh, comey...
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