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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 22, 2016 - 09:00pm PT
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I understand where LEO's are coming from...Trained to get the upper hand and wanting to go home to their families at night...Not condoning indescriminate shooting of black people or profiling but one day i was approaching a liquor store and see 2 black guys running out the front door...I joked to my brother that the place was being robbed...Entering , i discover the employees lying on the ground...They were robbed....It ain't all black and white...There's 2 sides to this arguement...
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Jul 22, 2016 - 10:17pm PT
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Surrey police shot a mentally ill black man because he was stabbing himself. Very effective policing, I guess, but he died of the gunshot wounds.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/surrey-police-shooting-victim-caught-on-surveillance-video-1.2886012
And apparently not all morons are gone.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/police-shootings-often-involve-mental-illness-and-ill-prepared-officers-1.2850020
It's the norm in Cascadia, where the mentally ill are routinely shot.
Seattle is under court supervision, as is Portland, after settlements with the Justice Department over the issue.
In Portland , it doesn't seem race biased. The total before the judge ordered reform was 7 whites, one Latino, and no blacks. Yay for us, I guess.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jul 22, 2016 - 10:34pm PT
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Saying it doesn't make it so.
even over and over again?
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kattz
climber
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Jul 22, 2016 - 10:35pm PT
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Nobody "discriminates" against them or profiles them...the thugs carry out terror against multiple races, especially Whites, on a daily basis, police should deal with them without Miranda, kiddie gloves and all, just take them somewhere and beat them.
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kattz
climber
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Jul 22, 2016 - 10:41pm PT
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Of course, in Canada cops have to be more up to higher standard...for sure, when common-folk realizes they'll never own a home, free and clear, in Canada (average value is about half a million now, driven up by mafia money from China laundered in Canada at the expense of its citizens)...and when they rebel...cops better be good. Chinese landlords won't like their serfs (former "regular Canadians, citizens of the 1st world") raising their voice. It'll be "racist", of course, and a few rubber bullets I'm sure will take care of the issue.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jul 22, 2016 - 10:43pm PT
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kattzeigheil! 88, comrade
I'll be "racist", of course, and a few rubber bullets I'm sure will take care of the issue.
mys'well own that shit
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kattz
climber
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Jul 22, 2016 - 10:55pm PT
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Instead of discussing fake non-issues such as cops grabbing thugs and drug trash or "bathrooms" need to:
Ban foreign real estate purchases.
Ban non-citizen real estate purchases.
This is how other countries do it (the ones that want to survive as society)
This country had been sold out to outsiders.
Jobs, homes, entire areas: everything is going.
Ban J-1 "student" (aka illegal worker stealing jobs) visa.
And for christ's sake, bring tanks to big cities and establish a curfew in high crime areas: anyone out after 9pm is shot on the spot. This the only way to deal with them.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 22, 2016 - 11:04pm PT
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BLM-Blue Lives Matter
i'd rathr, blue lives matteroffactly#
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 22, 2016 - 11:12pm PT
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what was this thread aboutr
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 22, 2016 - 11:24pm PT
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Instead of discussing fake non-issues such as cops grabbing thugs and drug trash or "bathrooms" need to:
Ban foreign real estate purchases.
Ban non-citizen real estate purchases.
This is how other countries do it (the ones that want to survive as society)
This country had been sold out to outsiders.
Jobs, homes, entire areas: everything is going.
Ban J-1 "student" (aka illegal worker stealing jobs) visa.
And for christ's sake, bring tanks to big cities and establish a curfew in high crime areas: anyone out after 9pm is shot on the spot. This the only way to deal with them.
The thread is about conservatives abandoning the rule of law (they better WATCH OUT for Trump!), and abandoning the Constitution.
They'll like Russia!
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 22, 2016 - 11:33pm PT
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Kattz, were you born in 'merica?
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 23, 2016 - 07:35am PT
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OK, pet peeve:
aka illegal worker stealing jobs
No illegal worker has ever stolen a job. They were given the job.
Thanks for listening.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 23, 2016 - 07:40am PT
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If you are a suspect and the cop has reason to believe you are armed, and he tells you to keep your hands up where he can see them, and you instead reach for something out of his view, yes, it IS STUPID and you are probably going to get shot and it is your fault.
Or you'll get shot even if you do have your hands up and doing everything they tell you to do:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-florida-caretaker-shot-20160721-snap-story.html
In a cellphone video that Kinsey’s attorney said was filmed by a bystander, Kinsey can be seen lying on the ground and heard urgently telling police in a loud voice, “All he has is a toy truck — a toy truck. I am a behavior therapist at a group home.”
“Rinaldo — please be still, Rinaldo. Sit down, Rinaldo. Lay on your stomach,” Kinsey calls out to his patient.
Kinsey said he was “more worried about him than myself, because as long as I got my hands up, they’re not going to shoot me — this is what I’m thinking. Wow, was I wrong.”
Police reportedly shot him three times.
“I’m like, ‘I still got my hands in the air,' and I said, ‘No, I just got shot!' And I’m saying, ‘Sir, why did you shoot me?’ And his words to me — he said, ‘I don’t know,’” Kinsey said.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 23, 2016 - 09:19am PT
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The Rude Pundit
A priceless clip on the Trump Speech
And Trump went further than any of the fearmongers before him in portraying the United States as a nightmare, a lawless landscape of rampant crime (which is really down), cops being gunned down (fewer than ever), and undocumented immigrants murdering the f*#k out of us (very rarely). The world itself is falling to pieces (despite it being one of the most peaceful periods in the planet's history). Every one of Trump's assertions is factually wrong. That's not just an opinion. Facts, actual numbers, something that Trump is very fond of mentioning, bear that out. But, no, the whole place is turning to sh#t, according to Trump. The only solution Trump offered is Trump. Trump will make it all better. All you gotta do is vote him in. Then America will be great again. He'll do it all by himself.
Or maybe, just maybe, this is the con: You make everyone believe that the world is turning to sh#t and then when you're elected, you just change the spin. "Oh, hey, look, crime is way down," you say, not even hinting that it was down before you were elected. "Oh, hey, look, my strategy on ISIS worked," you say, not mentioning that it was headed that way anyways. "Oh, hey, look, I've put into place a nearly two-year process for incoming refugees," you announce, leaving out that that's how it's been for a long time. See how easy it is to make America great again? You just start saying it is and then, racist blinders off, everyone looks around and says, "Well, sh#t, things really are pretty good." And for sh#t that wasn't getting done because Republicans wouldn't let it get done, like child care and infrastructure spending, hell, all of a sudden, the GOP will be the biggest fan of funding bridges and roads. And who gets all the credit? Not the nigger president who obviously f*#ked it all up because he's such a nigger. All accolades go to Trump.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 23, 2016 - 09:47am PT
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The President is a strong supporter of the police.
then Jody replied
Saying it doesn't make it so.
Jody, that is not the sense that I get of the President from his many years of strong pro law enforcement both words and his signing legislation expanding funding more than any President in history,
But I am willing to listen, make your case, and I hope your case is not BS personal "opinion" built around your "anti-democrat" built in bias and seemingly strong tendency to believe whatever your supportive Obama hating, birthing, "libtard" talking
supportive reinforcement groups you frequent or buy into tell you to beleive.
Facts matter Jody, I don't know you so I am giving you the benefit of non bias and ability to think critically on your on, so let's hear it, defend your contention that the President of the United States is now somehow, anti police, anti law enforcement.
Do it Jody, here and now, and you know what to do when you can't, right?
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 23, 2016 - 10:18am PT
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^^ Horsecrap
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 23, 2016 - 11:10am PT
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I can see why she picked Kaine.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 23, 2016 - 11:13am PT
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Kaine hit a grand slam, he is a progressive, calm, fair, honest and really likable.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 23, 2016 - 11:19am PT
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**
Watch out for the greeeeedy adverts donnyboy.
Kickass Torrents: How did the US Government bring down the file-sharing site?
Until today, Kickass Torrents (KAT) was one of the most visited websites on the internet and brought in tens of millions of dollars a year in advertising.
Now, the website is no more.
In late 2015, an undercover agent — known as UC-1 — who worked for the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS) emailed KAT to enquire about advertising on the site.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-21/how-the-us-government-brought-down-kickass-torrents/7649862
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