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apogee
climber
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Jeebus H Cripes, enough Krap® about DC, already! Go climb sumthin' (besides DC, of course.)!
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Short4Bob
Trad climber
Morgantown, WV
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Rick D -- why Triple S? I rather like it, although I do think it's overhyped.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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I've even heard people try to paint Triple S as a sandbag, although I never believed it.
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powderdan
Social climber
mammoth lakes
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while im the first one to bash colorado(espesialy around coloradans, i mean east coast transplants), i think eldo has awesome climbing.
oz? that climb rocks too...
oh well...
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powderdan
Social climber
mammoth lakes
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primrose???? now this thread has gone too far.
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powderdan
Social climber
mammoth lakes
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all my first ascents!
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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ec- Travellers? Come on, that route is great. One of my all time favorites, of course my favorite combo is doing tombstone terror to travelers, so maybe you have point on that first pitch.
Squeeze to hands, to a yes a fairly middle of the road ramp thing, but then an awesome step accross to jugs over the enormous big top roof, followed by vertical 5.4 jug hauling way up in the air. Ultra Classic.
Not over rated. perhpas other great routes are under rated and need to be brought up classic status like travellers, but no reason to bring this great route down.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Fluoride, without the bolts, how would the via ferrata stay in place?
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GDavis
Trad climber
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I'll probably get sh!t for this...
Cathedral peak. If not for the way it looks from the road It'd never be climbed. its pretty fun (i've done it 3 times) and interesting, but some really marvelous routes in tuolumne see far fewer ascents (pennroyal arches comes to mind). With the climbing one would expect to maybe see another party, or two, but the last few times I've been on it, its had over 15 people at the same time.. kind of nuts. Again, i was contributing to that! But, bring friends to tuolumne for the first time, and they will beg to be taken up it.
I agree with the arches and the east face, both really fun but more historical than... good.
And I've never climbed Hermaphrodite flake, only because I've yet to drive by and see anything but a group of six or seven teams lined up for it. Can it be that great? And whats with everyone rapping after the second pitch?
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GDavis
Trad climber
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and DC is way better with the lower bolt, it was hard to get a good placement in and you might get a groundfall from there. The second one is maybe not needed, but then again I didn't mind clipping it. After all, a route as popular as double cross is, why not just bolt it? Saves time for people leading it and makes the crowds move along faster.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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This thread represents everything I love about supertopo! Too much of the rest of it has become like a friggin' facebook page.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Preparing a really boring lecture for tonight. I apologize in advance to my students...
Look at me! I'm into strategery!
Nyuk nyuk. We're really all a bunch of bores, at home on Friday night before the summer's last long weekend.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Camper is packed and ready to go
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Loser checking in on a solo Friday night, right here!
OK, Primrose? It's pretty dang cool. Lots of variety: the semi-rubbly start, the why-are-they-still-here flakes, an actual downclimb, hands forever, cool huge flake, and stardrive sand-dune topout...what's not to like? Oh yeah, great summit too.
Serenity crack is just a vehicle for getting you to Sons of Yesterday...then the whole thing makes more sense. Rapping off after the first three is like getting to third base and then a cop pulls up behind you.
The Nose on Looking Glass: not that interesting.
Tami, putting the NE Butt of Higher in the same league as the EBMC isn't fair. The former is a full-value, old-school grade IV, and the latter is the best 5.7 in the Valley with a bit of aid or 5.10 thrown in there.
Cathedral Peak is awesome. Go climb it in October with no one around and forget about the people- you're confusing the objective with the subjective. Plus, FA John Muir, how cool is that?
OZ is sweet. So the corner isn't that hard, so what? If you want 300 moves in a row of 5.10+ to stroke your ego go get on a treadwall. The line is stellar and the view is lovely, it's friggin' hobbitland up there fer chrissakes.
I better get another beer.
[glug]
OK, super all-time overrated: the Durrance route on Devil's Tower. Grovelly, polished pillars that should do us all the favor of falling off already. Being on that thing is like a cockroach trying to climb out a toilet bowl. The deal at Deto is basically this: harder is better. Cleaner, more elegant, more sustained, you name it.
Um, the Naked Edge is amazing. WTF, people.
The Yellow Spur isn't. Exciting face climbing on the first and last pretty much make an all-crust, no-meat sandwich out of a long 5.7 corner. Agreed.
The Cattle Route is pretty cool until you go into the shade on what, the second pitch? Nine stars for being on the Diamond, minus four or five for being the shadiest route on the cliff, and god forbid you get behind someone.
Super Crack of the Desert: B effin' D. If only 'Luxury Liner' had stuck, we wouldn't have this problem. At least it has the highest gumby-gravitational field of any crack in the Wingate universe.
Illusion Dweller is pretty good- what's yer issue there? It doesn't degenerate into a low-angle frack like all the rest of 'em?
Midterm: basically OK, but not super intriguing.
And the ultimate,end-all overrated climb...........
The Owens River Gorge. If LA filled this thing up tomorrow, would anyone miss it? Vertical crimpmilling in a cement factory, no thanks.
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Scared Silly
Trad climber
UT
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We need some mountaineering/alpine routes
West Buttress on Denali
East Ridge of Mt. Temple.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Camper is packed and ready to go
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klk said it: any volcano.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Scared
Only having gotten up to about 15k+ on the West Rib,
certainly, the west buttress on Denali isn't all that
difficult. . .unless you get caught in a big bad storm.
And then it could cost a life. . .
The route's not to be trifled with.
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
Vacaville Ca,
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How about:
Everything on Temple Crap.
Wheat Thin,
South Face Washingtons Column,
Goodrich Pinnacle (Right)
Hardings Chimney (Sugarloaf)
The Line (Lovers Leap)
Power Lust (Leap)
Sands of Time (Cal Domes)
Gemini Crack (Cal Domes)
Every one of these routes has better climbing to the left and right.
Ok, Ok, South Face is a good route, it's just the situation surrounding it that makes it suck so bad.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Camper is packed and ready to go
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The South Face of Washington's Column does not suck. It is, however, a victim of the collective fallacy that 250 feet of aid climbing can magically transform a bunch of low-angle cracks into a Big Wall. In this sense, it is most certainly overrated.
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Rhodo-Router
Gym climber
Camper is packed and ready to go
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Riley, 'Eat' is not overrated. It pretty much rules.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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The Durrance is prolly my least favorite climb on the tower . But, overrated? Has anyone ever set it up as a cool climb? Isn't it's claim to fame that it is the easiest route up Deto?
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