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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Oct 26, 2007 - 02:20am PT
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hahaha.. just had that discussion right here in my living room
sweet, Standing
g'nite jello jaybro ms strong good times tomorrow to all
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Oct 26, 2007 - 04:08am PT
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Now if I could only figure out which ladder I'm on!
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TradIsGood
Half fast climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 26, 2007 - 08:04am PT
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The intersection of the set of things that all women want is certainly the empty set.
The union of the set of things that all women want probably includes things that do not exist.
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paganmonkeyboy
Trad climber
the blighted lands of hatu
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Oct 26, 2007 - 11:02am PT
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careful - TIG is busting out the venn diagrams...
joyful wrestling unto the stone it shall have to be then ;-) we should all be so fortunate...
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TradIsGood
Half fast climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 26, 2007 - 11:17am PT
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What is the difference between what they really want, what they think they want, and what they say they want?
Presumably the answer to above depends on to whom they are talking.
:-)
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 26, 2007 - 11:28am PT
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LEB wrote
"I think spouses should be each other's "best friends" over and above other persons. To be perfectly honest with you, I'd prefer a partner to mindlessly screw another woman than for him to be emotionally intimate with someone else - not that I'd want either. If someone else were his closest confident and emotional partner, I would consider that a bigger transgression then if he screwed around somewhere with some brainless bimbo. "
In the linked ladder theory, this might qualify as "Things women say but don't mean"
In the clumsy history of US maleness, a lot of guys' losest confident and emotional partners are their guy friends. If only they knew their girlfriend would prefer they screw bimbos instead!
;-)
Karl
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TradIsGood
Half fast climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Oct 26, 2007 - 11:36am PT
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Careful, Karl.
I have warned before that LEB is probably not a woman...
You could get in big trouble taking "her" advice.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Oct 26, 2007 - 03:43pm PT
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Women know what they want.
To always get their way.
Of course, if they think you know what they want, then they change it to something else.
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Oct 26, 2007 - 04:40pm PT
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Hmmmm...
A man with a ten inch tongue and the ability to breathe through his ears?
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Dragger
Mountain climber
Bay Area, CA
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Oct 26, 2007 - 06:38pm PT
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If #1 or #2 is in the realm of possibily, there's a serious problem. Fix it or finish it.
And by the way Nefarious, did I mention that footrubs are a prerequesite to dinner party invites? ;^)
Also, Fattrad-- you datin' three babes at once?! I think you took Craig's advice on speed dating. So? Did you get your answers yet? ;^)
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Oct 26, 2007 - 07:05pm PT
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HOH-May-n! still good the next day!
Missed this nugget in yesterday's wee hours
"seriously though I think the issue is Dignity. relationship without mutual respect for each other's deepest dignity will fail miserably and painfully. And true love is to cherish the other person's dignity as much as your own. Throw some hot rockin' sex in there and wow! just my 0.02"
Could have ended after that one; Though a lot of good stuff came afterwards.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Oct 26, 2007 - 07:21pm PT
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another option:
3. Husband/S.O. passionately screws some brainy, hot, babe wherein there is no emotional attachment for husband/S.O. or hot babe.
(Seems this scenario upsets wives as much as the others)
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Dragger
Mountain climber
Bay Area, CA
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Oct 26, 2007 - 07:53pm PT
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Ben Rumsen? Or did you mean Guido? Or *gasp* Satan? ;^)
No secret, just beat the odds. With billions of people out there, you'd think it'd be easy to find someone compatible. That's just not the case.
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Dragger
Mountain climber
Bay Area, CA
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Oct 26, 2007 - 08:09pm PT
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Hell?
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Oct 26, 2007 - 08:39pm PT
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RE:
"With billions of people out there, you'd think it'd be easy to find someone compatible."
maybe monogomy is a myth? or a dream?
some sort of outdated Victorian ideal?
something that looks good on paper but
just doesn't (or can't) stand up in real life?
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Oct 26, 2007 - 11:49pm PT
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My vote is that I wouldn't want my partner out hooking up any more than they'd want me to do the same.
The other details (e.g, emotional connection, brains, bimbo-ness) are irrelevant.
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Dragger
Mountain climber
Bay Area, CA
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Oct 27, 2007 - 12:32am PT
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RE:
"With billions of people out there, you'd think it'd be easy to find someone compatible."
"maybe monogomy is a myth? or a dream?"
Oops, maybe that came out wrong. I meant, it's hard enough to find just one person that you're compatible with. More than one? At the same time? I can't imagine how people do it.
What do women really want? Someone they're compatible with. People don't change all that much. I think you're better off just trying to find a good match rather than trying to make yourselves into something you think women are looking for.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Oct 27, 2007 - 01:32am PT
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scenarios, 1,2 &3 should reflect that it is not just the men who stray, nor as far as I can tell, the most likely dealio, just less likely to get talked about.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Oct 27, 2007 - 02:05am PT
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Haven't caught up on this thread but think about this Lois. The real manly men types often share their thoughts and feelings most openly with their best man pals.
Jealous?
Peace
I am cuddly and it really doesn't have to be a sex thing
peace
karl
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Oct 27, 2007 - 03:42am PT
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wow check this thread out, still here from yesterday !
I'd say bopping the bimbo is the reason there is a 3 day wait on the handgun. The other scenario takes longer to develop and can be talked about more readily, so not quite so bad.
I think most relationship failures are due to self sabotage. We create dynamics that are unsustainable. Sometimes we fall into someone else's unsustainable dynamics but that is also self sabotage.
ps just got back from the Bruce Springstein concert. Rocks like no other. He's taking back America 23,000 people at a time!
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