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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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Jul 13, 2007 - 08:47pm PT
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place wouldn't be the same without you Bob D.
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Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
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Jul 15, 2007 - 06:57pm PT
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It seems whenever I get "philosophical" a thread dies. Or the ants come in with their little minds.
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Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
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Jul 15, 2007 - 10:04pm PT
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Just ignore them and philosophicate away...
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jul 15, 2007 - 10:05pm PT
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Yeah, what Crimp said.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jul 15, 2007 - 11:18pm PT
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...Curt wrote:
"I really hate to "out" anyone here, but weschrist is...
1) A really nice guy.
2) A hell of a strong climber. ....."
A) Nice guys don't treat people the way this person does.
B) Irrelevant, see A...
hey dipper,
You left out my number (3) (that weschrist is a most excellent troll.) You've merely been had--hook, line and sinker, like so many others. Welcome to the interweb...
Curt
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jul 15, 2007 - 11:24pm PT
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The troll part, for sure, and there are enough of you guys talking nice words about him that you gotta wonder; but how 'good' is a guy who f*#kes up a thread like this and not only considers that an accomplishment, but the bald weasel fuk (thanks RW), gloats about it?
Were we all that worthless?
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 12:17am PT
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Curt wrote...You left out my number (3) (that weschrist is a most excellent troll.) You've merely been had--hook, line and sinker, like so many others. Welcome to the interweb...
Curt
Curt the only person had...was your little friend. This thread...was started with a true heart and mind. It was about respect and a chance to say thanks to those that have contributed to the sport that has bought much friendship and joy into my life.
You have to be a complete as#@&%e not to realized that this is living history speaking and telling stories that need to be told.
Making fun of it shows the limited age and mental capacity of your friend.
Later, Bob
PS...don't invite your little friend next time we go bouldering. LOL
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jul 16, 2007 - 12:20am PT
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bald weasel fuk
you forgot to that jewel!
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jstan
climber
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Jul 16, 2007 - 02:25am PT
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Went climbing last week with a young gym climber who had never:
1. climbed outdoors
2. placed protection
3. led
On day three he was leading 5.8 with stoppers and cams. When he was 100 feet out and out of sight I told him he had graduated. He had learned everything he needed to know. What did I learn? I learned the glass is way more than half full.
Something told me by a 95 year old babe gets close to what this thread is about. She said, John, the future will be much better than the past. But we all need to stay in contact. We all are going to have to change. Grace Rees
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand.... man.....
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Jul 16, 2007 - 02:58am PT
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He had learned everything he needed to know.
Prepare a casket.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jul 16, 2007 - 03:04am PT
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"Curt the only person had...was your little friend. This thread...was started with a true heart and mind. It was about respect and a chance to say thanks to those that have contributed to the sport that has bought much friendship and joy into my life.
You have to be a complete as#@&%e not to realized that this is living history speaking and telling stories that need to be told.
Making fun of it shows the limited age and mental capacity of your friend.
Later, Bob
PS...don't invite your little friend next time we go bouldering. LOL"
Naturally. Why would you want two of us there to embarrass you? Think about what you're saying, Bob. You've never made fun of anything held dear to someone else? I call BS.
Curt
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 10:02am PT
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Call...call it whatever you want...that my opinion on your friend and his post on this thread.
I am really worried if a young futon carrying kid can out boulder/embarrass me.
Right.
I got a little more than that going in my life.
Oh... The pictures he posted of those 12 foot boulders really scare me...kinda like the first time I saw the Black Canyon.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Jul 16, 2007 - 10:04am PT
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Well the writing is on the wall, literally and figuratively. AARP sent me a howdy card and I stapled it up right on that wall there.
I honestly never dreamed I would make it this far. Back in my daze of wind in the hair devil may care flights of fanciful freedom I never believed I would actually turn 50. That's years old and not IQ. Never in my wildest imagination was "old and in the way" going to be a description for myself. But there it is stapled to the wall proof on paper. All in all...in all I am pretty happy to be here.
Recently I had the pleasure to introduce Bob Culp to Jorge & Joanne Urioste and Mike Anglin. And while I was feeling honored to be standing amongst such Living history it struck me that climbing represents a tremendous continuum. One generation passing on the lore and knowledge of past generations to the next. Not understanding or valuing the immense contributions of those that came before seems to me narrow minded at best. The youth of today sashays up routes inconceivable in my youth. They begin by cutting their teeth on 5.10 and almost before blinking they are climbing 5.12. Are they better, stronger or more motivated than we were? Were we more than those before? The obvious answer is no. We all just get to start a little higher on the scaffold being constructed by the continuum. the obvious next questions for the youth are; how high are you going to build? What are you going to tear down to build with? And will your construction stand the test of time?
Me I am just a has been wannabe. I may be old but at least I can still get Out of the way. I may not know where I am going but I do cherish where I've been and I honor those that helped me get there. And I agree with Oli that what brings us together is greater and more rewarding than what tears us apart.
"Do not follow in the footsteps of the men of old; Seek what they sought" - Basho
So in honor of seeking oldness a bunch of dust fartin' cronies are showing up with me in Eldo to whup it up with Brews n BBQs.
If any of you Topo-opians are in the picknick area midday this coming Saturday the 21st stop on by pull up a rockin' chair put on your slippers and cardigan and observe how geezers get
down. Lawrence Welk on the 8-track and Geritol Smoothies on the house! It'll be a hoot at least till nap time.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 10:36am PT
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Nice Phil.
Next year I get full AARP bennys. Can't wait!
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jstan
climber
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Jul 16, 2007 - 10:51am PT
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How's this for a benny?
At age 62 for $15 you can buy a Golden Turkey that admits you to all national parks and forests - for the rest of your life.The ranger let me buy it even though I was one month short of 62. I thought it really nice of her.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jul 16, 2007 - 01:29pm PT
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"...Call...call it whatever you want...that my opinion on your friend and his post on this thread. I am really worried if a young futon carrying kid can out boulder/embarrass me. Right. I got a little more than that going in my life. Oh... The pictures he posted of those 12 foot boulders really scare me...kinda like the first time I saw the Black Canyon..."
Well, in another time and place I remember you spending considerable energy defending one of your "pals" from being dissed in a public forum. I guess it's just my turn now.
Curt
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 01:42pm PT
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Curt wrote: Well, in another time and place I remember you spending considerable energy defending one of your "pals" from being dissed in a public forum. I guess it's just my turn now.
Curt
He was/is a good friend who was being dissed by a idiot who had very little respect and was a troll.
Sound familiar??
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jul 16, 2007 - 01:42pm PT
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would you two cut it out? can we please talk about ME a little bit? huh? i mean, i'm an american legend fer chrissakes.
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bob d'antonio
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2007 - 02:49pm PT
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Wes wrote: Bob d'Ant, I never dissed anyone's stories. I dissed the air of self-perceived importance that is based on things people did HOW MANY YEARS AGO. I think your stories are great and I agree there are great people on this site... I didn't realize ya'll were so uptight.
It was important who did what years ago...who shoulders do you think you are standing on? Nothing you have done in climbing hasn't been done before. You are a Johnny come Lately.
Wes wrote: I love hearing old people actually talk about cool experiences... I can't help making fun of them when they give each other virtual hand jobs.
Like the virtual hand jobs you and your little buddies give each other??
Wes wrote:How lucky are we to have the likes of Sharma, Caldwell, Graham, Litz, Loskot, Woods, Van Belle and the host of all the other great climbers/folks that are redefining our sport." I'm sure you have no problem realizing how trite that sounds.
It does sound trite...you left out a number of really good climbers doing some amazing stuff and you put a has been in that group. Love you BVB.
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scuffy b
climber
Bates Creek
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Jul 16, 2007 - 02:53pm PT
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Van Belle's publicist is worth his weight in gold.
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