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Scott Cole
Trad climber
Jackson, WY^
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Mar 22, 2006 - 08:56am PT
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Adding bolts to established routes is and always has been b.s. Don't try to force sport climbing "rules" on all of us. Replacing ratty old bolts or beefing up anchors is fine but if something is to hard/scary for you, stay off! Drilling G.U. is part of the trad ethic, you place the bolts where you can, not at some predetermined distance. The rush of climbing away from gear on a F.A. with a few hooks and a drill not knowing where you can stop is something to experience before you desecrate someone else's masterpiece.
Scott
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426
Sport climber
Framed. TN.
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Mar 22, 2006 - 09:11am PT
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I see your point, but I'd be remiss not to "cast out" that I've known a few 'uber'trads™™ who claimed using hooks was "less than wholesome",a nefarious business at best, and a complete cheat at worst. The same guys would "dirt you" if you as so much weighted the rope, sayin' the whole time
"Unclean, unclean..."
(Just pokin' you in the back with a stick (clip, of course)~my part in this tale ends "then I found big bolts..."uncleaner™"...)
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Mar 23, 2006 - 02:44pm PT
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The people be bumpin' (At Bump City)
The joint be jumpin' (At Bump City)
The mamas be humpin' (At Bump City)
Hey, while the band be pumpin',
'Said the band be pumpin',
The beat be somethin',
Ow! One time y'all!
––that's the chorus from "Down To The Nightclub", from the album Bump City (above).
Well, this thread keeps bumpin' – yet knott another word from Mark Stroeve, who
evidently has a rather short memory. Damn, I can't even start a good flame-war anymore!
Anyway, with all due respect, Larry Graham and Bootsy are awesome players, but IMO,
Rocco is on a whole 'nother level (funk), just like Jaco was far and away in a league of
his own with his innovation and range of voices he got out of the instrument.
When I first heard East Bay Grease (1970), it fuçking blew me away. I still listen to
it fairly often. Hopefully you will have this in your collection. I have the LP and the CD:
On the first track Knock Yourself Out, at exactly 5:30 into it,
there is the most insane stuttering, syncopated bit of bass that
comes in here––I still listen to this shIt with my mouth agape.
This is knott hyperbole. I am SERIOUS.
Please have a listen and let me know what you think!
I have more examples––but I don't want to play all my cards just yet.
(plus, this thread might need some more bumpin')
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Rhodo-Router
Trad climber
Otto, NC
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Mar 23, 2006 - 03:04pm PT
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I like the bass in 'There's A Riot Goin' On', the Sly album of 1970. Is that Larry Graham?
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johnny5
Big Wall climber
no mans land
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Mar 23, 2006 - 06:15pm PT
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Hardman Knot....you have WAAAAAAAYYY too much time on your hands. You need to get out more often and away from taco land. You keep that sh#t up and you'll go blind.
j5
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Bodyboarder
Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
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Mar 23, 2006 - 07:34pm PT
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You funk liking guys should check out a band called lettuce and one called soul live!!!!
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Robb
Social climber
Flathead Valley, Montana
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Mar 23, 2006 - 09:17pm PT
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JB
What do you think of Stanely Clark's stuff - Return to Forever & his early solo work?
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Mar 23, 2006 - 10:39pm PT
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bodyboarder - already got it - pretty cool stuff. those guys can jam!
Love Stanley Clark - especially his earlier stuff.
We need to start a funk thread!
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KP Ariza
climber
SCC
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Mar 23, 2006 - 11:16pm PT
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johnny5- I think you're onto something, is he Knott?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
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"just put up (a) well bolted 4 pitch sport route 5 feet either left or right of the line. the knobs wouldnt be that much diffrent." ~ Clayman
Just as sacreligiuos . . .
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