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Nuglet
Trad climber
Orange Murica!
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Sep 22, 2017 - 08:28am PT
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covfefe is from Nambia
everyone know that, duh!
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2017 - 05:58pm PT
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Isn't that great!!
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 31, 2017 - 07:31pm PT
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Funny!
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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Oct 31, 2017 - 07:32pm PT
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The stuff dreams are made of.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 22, 2018 - 12:21am PT
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Don't forget the cannoli!
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Aug 22, 2018 - 03:45am PT
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 22, 2018 - 02:06pm PT
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Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends? -Abraham Lincoln Short and tactful endzone dances are to be expected but the Trump's and Clinton's of the world need to be put in check by a preponderance of the masses. The breadth of Trump's misdeeds will soon revealed and perhaps a broad political spectrum will demand an end to anonymous and unlimited donations as a start.
Surely Jody, Edward T, Pizzaman, blahblah, et al. would join in on something so fundamentally prudent. Then let the political chips fall where they may.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 23, 2018 - 09:55am PT
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Give it a ten on the off-the-scale meter, but can we dance to it?
President Donald Trump on Thursday suggested that “flipping” to make a deal with prosecutors “almost ought to be outlawed,” and falsely claimed that his former personal attorney Michael Cohen’s crimes “weren’t crimes.”
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 23, 2018 - 11:53am PT
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"those guys who can stand up to the government, I respect them a lot. Nobody does this anymore. It’s too hard.” - Dominick Montiglio, Gambino crime family soldier
"I got a lot of respect for the guys who don’t break under the pressure, the FBI pressure, or whatever,” - Sammy "the Bull" Gravano, Gambine crime family underboss
"I feel very badly for Paul Manafort ... [the Justice Department] applied tremendous pressure on him and ...he refused to ‘break’ Such respect for a brave man!" - our current president
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Aug 23, 2018 - 12:38pm PT
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^^^+++^^^
If it was up to me he would be a future recipient of the congressional medal of freedom.
Oh just like the one Congressman who wanted to give Strzok a Purple Heart? Loevely.
So after a year and half Mueller got some rich jerk on tax evasion which has jack sh#t to do with Trump, Russians, or the 2016 election. He's had how many many years of highly talented lawyer time to get that?
Seems like a colossal waste of resources at this point, time for the libs to admit there's no collusion (or at least no legally prohibited collusion) and move on.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Aug 23, 2018 - 12:48pm PT
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Can't figure out which is less appealing; President Pence or 2 more years of the orange tornado.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 23, 2018 - 01:09pm PT
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Can't figure out which is less appealing; President Pence or 2 more years of the orange tornado.
Unlike those on the right who tolerate the immorality of Trump because they like his agenda, I'd rather see Trump out of office. Pence seems more competent and may move that agenda along better (which for the most part I don't agree with), but Trump is so disgraceful and has done so much damage to the office of the President and the reputation of the country I'd like to see him go down in disgrace so hopefully we don't make the same type of mistake in the future.
IF Mueller's report has substantial evidence of Trump conspiring with the Russian's illegal activity to sway the election (which is clearly a felony) it will be interesting to see how much support drains from Trump and when. I was already shocked with the so called "moral" people on the right held their nose and voted for someone bragging about sexual assault (of course they are able to delude themselves into thinking it was just locker room talk), but if there's evidence beyond a reasonable doubt he committed felony crimes it will be interesting to see how many people can spin it in their own minds and for how long. The hypocrisy of chanting "lock her up" for cooked Hillary's much less egregious crimes while allowing Trump a pass for much worse stuff is staggering.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 23, 2018 - 01:12pm PT
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blat always talks like he seen all the evidence
how'd he get the inside channel?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 23, 2018 - 01:15pm PT
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You forgot about Cohen, blahblah
Kind of convenient, that doublethink.
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Aug 23, 2018 - 01:21pm PT
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We have to be careful here.
I mean it's not crazy-stupid to think Trump could flip out
at some point under all this pressure, press the button and
vaporize us all.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 23, 2018 - 01:37pm PT
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It is illegal to plan to meet to be given "dirt" (thing of value) on your political opponents from non-citizens. This is a conspiracy to accept an illegal campaign contribution and borerline treason accepting it from a foe of the USA regardless of whether any "dirt" is received or not. Just like a conspiracy to rob a bank or any other crime. Yes bro, it is legally prohibited and it doesn't matter if the bank gets robbed if it can be proven the criminals were serious in their intent.
Yet the DNC and Hillary get a pass for hiring a foreign national to get dirt from Russian officials. Hmm.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Aug 23, 2018 - 01:39pm PT
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These politard topics keep getting intentionally infected with ad hominem trolls, for the specific purpose of getting them locked. I don't understand why the moderators don't single out the ad hominem posters, and allow the presenters of facts to remain in conversation.
August 21, 2018 was DAY ONE of the countdown to Mueller's final vindication.
The Trump Avalanche cut loose on that day, and is slowly gaining momentum as it slides down into a bottomless abyss.
DAY ONE:
Manafort and Cohen were both convicted in Federal court on eight felony counts each. Cohen is cooperating with investigators. Manafort is "weighing his options".
DAY TWO:
New York State tax officials subpoenaed Cohen, and he immediately called them to schedule a meeting. They are pursuing Trump for state tax fraud related to his phony Trump Foundation. The IRS and Federal Election Commission are also investigating the Trump Foundation's financial irregularities. Trump's three oldest children are also subjects of the Trump Foundation investigations.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/politics/michael-cohen-trump-foundation-subpoena/index.html
The State and Federal agencies will access Trump's tax returns, and possibly make them public. Like Trump, Paul Manafort never released his tax returns; the special prosecutor simply subpoenaed them from the IRS. Mueller didn't need Manafort's cooperation in obtaining the evidence that convicted him.
DAY THREE:
David Pecker, the publisher of the National Enquirer, has been granted immunity by Mueller. Pecker was the one who made the $150,000 Playboy Payoff, and his testimony and evidence will corroborate what Michael Cohen told a Federal judge on DAY ONE.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/us/politics/david-pecker-immunity-trump.html
Pecker and Cohen are enough to sink Trump for felony election fraud. The framers of the Constitution were concerned about someone becoming president through fraud or bribery. So, they included a provision for impeaching and removing an illegitimate president from office.
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/what-the-founders-thought-about-impeachment-and-the-president
When Trump escalates his defensive strategy of lies and denials, Mueller's obstruction case against him will also escalate.
Here's how Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh wrote about how a sitting president should be treated by the courts, if he engages in lies, obstruction of justice, and/or a "pattern of revolting behavior".
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-kavanaugh-obstruction-20180823-story.html
Kavanaugh's strict rules of conduct were directed at Bill Clinton in 1998. Since then, Kavanaugh has changed his mind and currently believes that the president has substantial powers to remain in office, regardless of his behavior.
Here are some excerpts from Mike Pence's radio show performances during the late 1990s, when Bill Clinton was president.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/06/politics/kfile-mike-pence-moral-columns/index.html
Like Kavanaugh, Pence's moral relativism allows him to fully support the current president and his lies, obstruction of justice, and pattern of revolting behavior.
It's a pathetic and disgusting fact of modern American life that money and power addicts would rather see America destroyed by an incompetent megalomaniac, than to lose even a small measure of partisan favoritism.
Evangelicals will probably be the first to abandon Trump. Their 2016 goal to block Hillary has been accomplished. Their hypocritical support of Trump is being overwhelmed by the sheer magnitude of his irrefutable turpitude. Evangelicals can be expected to oppose a presidential pardon by Pence. Now that Trump is being fully exposed as a wicked sinner, Evangelicals will want to cast him into their mythical Lake of Fire.
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