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John M
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Nov 19, 2015 - 04:11pm PT
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I would say thats part of it among some people, but to me its more just simply that he is liberal. John Kerry is white and he was swift boated.
Is there an example of this type thing being done by liberals to a conservative? I'm not trying to raise up liberals as some bastion of goodness. I'm just curious if someone has an example.
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dirtbag
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:02pm PT
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Kerry's treatment was different. The whole "born in Kenya" /not native bit were code words for "hey, he's black."
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spectreman
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:08pm PT
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dirtbag
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Nov 19, 2015 - 03:46pm PT
Why isn't the right up in arms that Cruz was born outside America? They certainly were about Obama, even after Obama proved he was born in America and its established that Cruz wasn't . I haven't seen a single person up in arms about Cruz being born outside the country.
Because Obama is black.
And all people who are ridiculing Dr. Ben Carson are only doing so because he is Black. There can't be any other possible reason. It is blatant racism I tell ya!!
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:19pm PT
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Now there's a point without a point.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:20pm PT
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If BHO was such a brilliant student, why are his records still sealed?
There was a black Republican last cycle that was "swiftboated" by the establishment ad the black buck rapist. (the libs and the RINOs had common cause)
Turns out that was all made up.
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dirtbag
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:22pm PT
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Who knows, and who besides you really "cares"?
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
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Is there an example of this type thing being done by liberals to a conservative?
The Nation was trying to smear Poppa Bush for bailing out of his flaming TBM. They claimed he should have stayed in the plane with his crew.
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Funk 29
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Wallowa, OR
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
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Cruz is so well educated!
Love hearing that guy speak.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Nov 19, 2015 - 05:57pm PT
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I think, TGT, that everyone's academic records are private.
Great answer dirtbag. If Dr. Ben is actually the nominee (fat chance) there is going to be a lot of internal gastric anxiety in quite a few of the, well, southern states. I've lived in Alabama and Florida (the worst) and know what I'm talking about. Ben is ...... a smart man but a moron. Cruz on the other hand is a smart man but a fascist; I have no desire to put my fate in the hands of mighty Ted - he won't like me and may have me sent to a 're-education' camp.
And as far as the 'natural born citizen' BS, Cruz is a natural born citizen of the US if his birth was registered with the American Embassy in Canada as an 'American born abroad'. I know this because I was and have that paper to prove it. Even though I was born in New Zealand I am an American by birth, because of my father, and a Kiwi, because of my mother. I hold both passports and can be president and am willing, in fact excited, to throw my candidacy into the ring. A PAC is at this moment being formed where you can send your money. I'll spend it wisely.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
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So exactly what are the "fascist" statements of Cruz?
The only fascist activities recently have been by Hildebeest's acolytes threatening comedians, and ivy league brownshirts.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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For you, TGT:
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired Climber
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:29pm PT
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
So exactly what are the "fascist" statements of Cruz?
Well he has said that gays don't have the right to marry. What say you, Wendell?
Oh, and I hope you are better at answering than your cohort, Jody.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 19, 2015 - 06:59pm PT
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Two people of the same sex cannot marry, by the very definition of the word.
They can have the same legal rights, no problem with that, but marriage is about culturally insuring the stability of the family and raising children, not sexual preference.
Progs seem to be the ones obsessed with sexual definitions and the deconstruction of the concept of a family.
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crankster
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No. Tahoe
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:02pm PT
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Well, TNT, you've stated your belief very clearly. However, as usual, you are on the wrong side of public opinion and history.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:11pm PT
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Us"Breeders" are more concerned that our grandchildren will not be bankrupted and enslaved by an increasingly oppressive and intusive government.
We could care less about your sexual proclivities.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:21pm PT
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They can have the same legal rights, no problem with that,
Well, that's not the case. They don't have the same rights as domestic partners. Which is why two friends of mine wanted to get married.
We could care less about your sexual proclivities.
Then why do you care who marries who?
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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Actually, repubs seem to care a LOT about sex. What's with the ongoing attack on the right to use contraceptives? That's really where the whole anti-abortion thing is headed. The whole evangelical attack on one's ability to exercise some sort of control over whether one has children or not is motivated by a desire (ha!) to control others bodies and minds. I for one am getting pretty f*#king damned tired of others trying to tell us how to behave!!! Do what you want, believe what you want, but leave me and mine alone and don't expect us to conform to you distorted ideas. I won't ask you to conform to mine, distorted and perverted as they may be.
My wife told me that as a child, her parents belonged to some sort of 'church' that told little girls that they should pray to die before they were thirteen so that they could go to heaven before they were sinful. What they were really saying was that as soon as a girl had her period she was impure and would go to hell. Do people actually believe this sh#t? Yes, they do and to try and force that sort of bullshit on little children is awful and should send you to the deepest depths of hell, if it exists, which I doubt.
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HighDesertDJ
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
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TGT posted Two people of the same sex cannot marry, by the very definition of the word.
They can have the same legal rights, no problem with that, but marriage is about culturally insuring the stability of the family and raising children, not sexual preference.
So you're saying that if two people get married who do not wish to have children or are incapable of having children they are not married by the very definition of the word?
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Nov 19, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
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So, to be clear, if my daughter, who is gay, has a child and is married to another woman, you would support her right to be married, because that would "culturally insuring the stability of the family and raising children, not sexual preference"?
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 19, 2015 - 08:05pm PT
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Carson is a neurosurgeon, there's no denying that. Must be an idiot-savant thing, much as happens with music.
Curt
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