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Greg Kuchyt
Trad climber
Potsdam, NY
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:34am PT
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Can anyone identify this hanger? It was used with a 10mm self-drill anchor that I replaced a couple weeks ago. This route had a bunch of bolts added after the FA. Looks like the above Kong Bonaiti but subtly different around the clip-in point. I can try to get a better picture if needed. It's hard to see the logo with the corrosion. Thanks!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2015 - 09:09pm PT
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Greg, that hanger looks like these Camp hangers.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2015 - 09:38pm PT
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Climb Tech
“The Anchoring Innovators for Fall Protection, Rope Access, Confined Space, Work-at-Height, Mining, Rescue, Rock Climbing and More.”
http://www.climbtechgear.com
Climb Tech creates a lot of really cool safety equipment and anchors including removable bolts. I was lucky to be around when Climb Tech Karl and Joseph were first creating the RB’s (removable bolts), and scored many prototypes for the museum. In the mid 1980s Karl and Joseph owned a company named Go-Pro and created Rock and Rollers-sliders. Thanks Karl for your many donations to the museum! Climb Tech is located in Austin Texas USA.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2015 - 08:26am PT
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2015 - 12:45pm PT
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Aug 24, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
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As of an hour ago...safe and sound with me:
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 24, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
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Roots - I knew I was late seeing that gear thread and sure enough there was one of the Dolt hangers I am seeking. Maybe Steve got the other one. Is there anything on the back side of the green Dolt tag? Two weeks later after the first post and the Nut Chock wrench was still available. I am surprised none of you guys, not even Stephane went after it.
Destined for the Karabin Museum!
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Aug 25, 2015 - 12:31am PT
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Marty... will you believe me...? I did not see this treasure on the photograph. As you know, I am a rather old guy and a grey item on a grey background is able to mislead me... Please Marty, could you send me a good photograph...?
From the historical point of view, the Chock Wrench predates the patented Ruhl Tool by three years...
Edit: Marty… imagine… if I ever would have seen and identified the Chock Wrench on that thread, then I immediately would have contacted you and asked you to get this nut tool for me… It would have been a terrible dilemma for you. On the one hand you would have loved to please me… on the other hand it would have been a painful experience for you to part with it… So I have an idea: you can keep the nice photograph that you are going to shoot for me and drop the nut tool in the post. Do you enjoy Corsican humor…?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 25, 2015 - 12:54am PT
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 25, 2015 - 06:53am PT
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I knew I had arrived late seeing that most of the birds had already left the carcass. My shoulders shrugged as I saw the size of the prize, and my late arrival to the meal left me with just scraps. But my hunger made me press on as I discovered that there was still prime meat on the bone. Was this an oversight by the other birds? Or were the other birds being generous so I would praise them for their initial kill?
Stephane I just mailed you the Chock Wrench, Happy Birthday young man. Oops I still have it, must be Corsican humor!
:)
For now I need to have the Chock Wrench in my hands since I can't believe that I actually have it. And Stephane and I corresponded about this tool one month ago. I admit that when I looked through the mass of gear at first I thought it was some kind of crampon part, and then I realized and scrambled hastily to get it. Thanks goes to Jesse for the sale.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Aug 25, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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Stephane I just mailed you the Chock Wrench, Happy Birthday young man. When reading the beginning of your sentence, I started to cry, I was so moved... then came the end... and I understood that you have a stronger sense of Corsican humor than me. Hat off Marty!
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Aug 25, 2015 - 08:22am PT
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Marty - the back of the tag is blank.
Enjoy the wrench. I will admit that I noticed it but didn't know what it was. From my motorcycle days, I thought it might be a shock adjust wrench as other things are mixed in that stash that are not climbing related. Well, I feel foolish and will resolve to actually spend time with my catalogs and Summit mags, but at least one of you masters have it safe and sound now.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
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So I received the Chock Wrench and WOW. I was expecting a aluminum object but instead it is an exact Chock Wrench replica, but made of plastic.
Hmmm. I am taking a guess here but I believe the plastic Chock Wrench is a prototype cut-out which was used in the creation process of the Chock Wrench. It could be material used for a precheck for the die stamp, or a sample shown between the buyer/artist and the tool creator. I feel like it is worth $1.00 but at the same time it could be priceless. Overall I wish it was the Aluminum item shown in the Summit magazine photos, and I paid good coin for it.
So maybe this is why the other collectors originally did not see the item in the lot, clear plastic. So very very close, but no Cigar!
Stephane, the final result here shows, I got served the Corsican Humor!
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Aug 28, 2015 - 12:26am PT
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As a professional photographer I use to look at transparencies with a lot of care… However, as this Chock Wrench was just a mirage, I suddenly feel myself less old… Must I add that I love mirages…
Please Marty, could you send me a good photograph of this Chock Wrench near to the Ruhl Tool. These are the most iconic nut tools for me. In the meantime, I treasure the photograph above.
Hum... one more thing... Marty... you should have read the article by Paul Bunning until the end…
The tool is made of 1/8-inch thick Lexan Polycarbonate, a material which is nearly bullet proof. It is nearly weightless and is effortlessly carried and readily available if hung from a carabiner in the end hole and snapped into an equipment sling. Marty, I am well afraid that your Chock Wrench might be very close to be an ORIGINAL! To solve the problem is a poor consolation for me...
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2015 - 07:11am PT
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Thanks Stephane for unlocking this mystery. Yes the Chock Wrench is 1/8” thick. Looks like there are a few different color plastics that were used since the Summit Magazine Chock Wrench does not appear to be clear plastic. The plastic is tough yes, but it is bendy like a draftsman’s template. I can’t imagine this tool lasting a major battle against a very stubborn stuck chock. Another problem is that all of the holes on the Chock Wrench are made to fit a carabiner. A uneducated climber may use the 1974 Chock Wrench as a quick draw which a good fall will easily break it (not recommended). The 1979 Forrest Crag Dagger nut tool and 1977 Forrest Bam Nut tool can be used as a quickdraw.
So it looks like this Chock Wrench is original made of Lexan Polycarbonate. Totally awesome! I am very curious on the results of the usage of this tool. How many were created, how many were sold, and how many that were sold did not break while the climber was using it. It is hard to believe that this is a climbing tool. It really looks like a plastic draftsman’s drawing template.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Aug 28, 2015 - 08:16am PT
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Hey, Marty - saw these hangers on the anchors of an older route yesterday.
Never seen any like this before:
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Aug 28, 2015 - 08:24am PT
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^^^those were made to thread a rope through and rappel off.
Cool design, even better thread!
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Aug 28, 2015 - 08:53am PT
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^^^^^^^^
as Mucci pointed out. You gotta love the quick link in a rap hanger. We are doomed!
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Aug 28, 2015 - 08:54am PT
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Interesting - I could tell from the OP's picture that it was clear plastic (you can see the cement floor through it). Which made me doubt even more that it was a piece of climbing gear.
There was a time (70-80's) when plexi glass was considered super strong and was being used as a sub for metal in a variety of different industries. Guess they thought so too.
Remember plexi glass skateboards and ramps?
You got a real treasure Karabin!!
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2015 - 11:07am PT
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Every time I am on a airplane I look at the bolt hanger that is on each of the wings. Back in the mid 1990s I contacted McDonnell Douglas inquiring about getting one of these hangers for the museum. I got no leads and was unable to obtain one. Robert from the Olson Climbing Collection has been recently researching the airplane bolt hanger and contacted Boeing about it. He was told that the bolt hanger is not for public sale and if it was it would cost around $3000.
The airplane bolt hanger is used as a clip-in point for a person to assist during a water rescue, or other hazards. Robert also mentioned that it was used as a safety point for the engine somehow, which makes no sense to me. I thought the bolt hanger was used as a safety anchor for a maintenance person standing/working on the wing. But on every plane I have noticed that there is only one bolt hanger per wing. Anybody out there have connections to obtain airplane parts?
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