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TGT
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So Cal
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Apr 16, 2015 - 03:12pm PT
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Apr 16, 2015 - 03:32pm PT
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I love the look on Bill O'Reily's face!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Apr 16, 2015 - 04:03pm PT
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So far the Republitards haven't got anyone better than the ridiculous 11 + 2 Mormons of 2012
Yes, 11 Republican morons. Bachmann, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Herman Cain etc.
I found it odd that the best one, Huntsman got nowhere and that they couldn't find anyone else better than Romulus. And 2 Mormons? I never thought I'd see THAT and I grew up in Utaaahhhhr.
Hillary, E Warren and Bernie Sanders. Any one of them are better than Rand Paul, Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. Chris Christie? give me a break!
Carly Fiorina? Her capitalist executive experience? She single handedly ran down Hewlett Packard to a shadow of it's former self. After 6 years, the board finally booted her. Donald Trump is a more successful capitalist.
No candidate gets my vote until the last few days before the election. They have to earn it.
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SweetWilliam
Boulder climber
TheSand,Man
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Apr 16, 2015 - 04:12pm PT
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we had am history last year and one of the old timey pres was a real bigfat guy taft he was like 350.
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perswig
climber
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Apr 16, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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Olympia Snowe/Elizabeth Warren.
Dale
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 16, 2015 - 06:22pm PT
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Apr 16, 2015 - 06:23pm PT
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she did stand by Bill when he was getting naughty with his cigars ... but beyond that .... Zero
This is what Cragman sees as Hillary's only accomplishment - that she stood by her man when he was caught cheating on her, just like a woman should. That's what he calls integrity ... for a woman.
Obama is a little girl who soiled his panties.
Ouch! How insulting, because little girls are, well, girls. Obama, he's, well, ...
Sure, it's all about political ideology in our massive brains.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Apr 16, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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Sweet...!!!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 16, 2015 - 06:37pm PT
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Libertarianism in America: A Phony Ideology to Promote a Corporate Agenda
Before Milton Friedman was earning plaudits as an economic genius, he was a shill for the real estate industry and an early pioneer for big business propaganda known as libertarianism.
By Mark Ames / NSFWCORP
September 6, 2013
Every couple of years, mainstream media hacks pretend to have just discovered libertarianism as some sort of radical, new and dynamic force in American politics. It’s a rehash that goes back decades, and hacks love it because it’s easy to write, and because it’s such a non-threatening “radical” politics (unlike radical left politics, which threatens the rich). The latest version involves a summer-long pundit debate in the pages of the New York Times, Reason magazine and elsewhere over so-called “libertarian populism.” It doesn’t really matter whose arguments prevail, so long as no one questions where libertarianism came from or why we’re defining libertarianism as anything but a big business public relations campaign, the winner in this debate is Libertarianism.
Pull up libertarianism’s floorboards, look beneath the surface into the big business PR campaign’s early years, and there you’ll start to get a sense of its purpose, its funders, and the PR hucksters who brought the peculiar political strain of American libertarianism into being — beginning with the libertarian movement’s founding father, Milton Friedman. Back in 1950, the House of Representatives held hearings on illegal lobbying activities and exposed both Friedman and the earliest libertarian think-tank outfit as a front for business lobbyists. Those hearings have been largely forgotten, in part because we’re too busy arguing over the finer points of “libertarian populism.”
read more
http://www.alternet.org/visions/true-history-libertarianism-america-phony-ideology-promote-corporate-agenda
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Apr 16, 2015 - 06:45pm PT
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Maybe she decided that businesses create jobs after all. NBC certainly created one for Chelsea
I didn't know that Chelsea was working at NBC, but I do see Bush's daughter Jenna as a field reporter all the time on their morning show.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Apr 16, 2015 - 06:54pm PT
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Think how it will look to the world if Bush III gets it.
Third time the charm?
Three wrongs don't make a President.
Bush I wasn't too bad. Better than Harding I suppose.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 16, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/may/08/context-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/
A republican senator was rudely grilling the Secratary of state.. saying she was making excuses..that she misled them...
Her reply to a crude questioning...
"With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime."
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Indeed.. what difference does it make? Unless you are trying to use the dead bodies of 4 Americans serving their country to score some political points against a president and his cabinet
Democrats never went after Reagan with this kind of dishonest pathetic pandering when he lost a couple hundred marines due to poor security in Lebanon.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 16, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Apr 16, 2015 - 08:23pm PT
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This Tea Party Patriot Is Voting For Hillary, Terrified He’ll Lose Obamacare If Republicans Win
Author: Vera April 16, 2015 10:44 am
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/16/this-tea-party-patriot-is-voting-for-hillary-terrified-hell-lose-obamacare-if-republicans-win-video/
This week, a conservative video blogger took to YouTube to tell his hundreds of followers why he would likely be voting for Hillary Clinton this election. The reason? Obamacare changed his life for the better, and he knows he might lose it if a Republican is elected.
“And I’m serious because I asked myself, ‘Which party has helped me out the most in the last, I don’t know, 15 years, 20?’ And it was the Democrat Party.”
This is what Webb had to say about how Obama changed his life, and why he wants to keep Democrats in the White House:
Webb explained to viewers, “If it wasn’t for Obama and that Obamacare, I would still be working.”
“With Obamacare, I got to retire at age 50 because if it wasn’t for Obamacare, I would have had to work until I was 65 and get on Medicare because health insurance is expensive when you’ve got medical problems.”
Despite reflecting on his history of supporting the Republican party for the last 32 years, Webb feels justified in his reason for voting differently this election. Although he said it was a “tough decision,” Webb is confident that he’s making the right choice.
“But you know, the Republican Party, they haven’t done nothing for me, man. Nothing. So, I’m leaning toward voting for Hillary unless something major comes up. I don’t trust the Republicans anymore because they’re wanting to repeal the Obamacare. And I don’t want them to do that, man, because then I’ll have to go to work again. My life’s already planned out.”
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Apr 17, 2015 - 07:25am PT
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. . . to concede she's not what America wants or needs. . .
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Apr 17, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
Apr 16, 2015 - 08:23pm PT
This Tea Party Patriot Is Voting For Hillary, Terrified He’ll Lose Obamacare If Republicans Win
Classic leftwing propaganda.
Some rightwing video blogger, with an almost nonexistent following, endorses Hillary... and thanks to a leftwing outlet giving him coverage, he's indicative of rightwing sentiments.
Keep up the good work, Craig.
This stuff is hysterical.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 17, 2015 - 08:16am PT
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This has nothing to do with the issue under discussion, but I find the below article amusing, and I do not want to start a new thread for it.
I am not a Dr. Oz fan!
Columbia University has not removed TV celebrity doctor Mehmet Oz from his faculty position as a group of top doctors have demanded, citing his "egregious lack of integrity" for promoting what they call "quack treatments."
"Dr. Oz has repeatedly shown disdain for science and for evidence-based medicine," said a letter the 10 physicians sent to a Columbia dean earlier this week. They say he's pushing "miracle" weight-loss supplements with no scientific proof that they work.
The New York Ivy League school responded Thursday, issuing a statement to The Associated Press saying only that the school "is committed to the principle of academic freedom and to upholding faculty members' freedom of expression for statements they make in public discussion."
Led by Dr. Henry Miller of California's Stanford University, the doctors sent the letter to Lee Goldman, dean of Columbia's Faculties of Health Sciences and Medicine. The nine other doctors from across the country included Dr. Joel Tepper, a cancer researcher from the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, and Dr. Gilbert Ross of the American Council on Science and Health in New York City.
The doctors wrote that Oz, for years a world-class Columbia cardiothoracic surgeon, "has manifested an egregious lack of integrity by promoting quack treatments and cures in the interest of personal financial gain." They said he has "misled and endangered" the public.
Oz first came to public attention as a frequent television guest of Oprah Winfrey. For the past five years, he's been the host of "The Dr. Oz Show."
Last year, he appeared before a U.S. Senate panel that accused him of endorsing products that were medically unsound. At the time, Oz acknowledged that some of the products he advised his viewers to use "don't have the scientific muster to present as fact."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/physicians-want-dr-oz-gone-from-columbia-medical-faculty/ar-AAb7Bzy
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 17, 2015 - 08:43am PT
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Is Cmac too bored to freeze this thread?
Scrubbing.... No personal attacks yet..... I like it.
This is going to be one FUN election.......
For me the big decider will be when the question is asked: "what about the legal POT in Colorado?"
The answer should tell all one needs to know about a candidate.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 17, 2015 - 08:49am PT
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Really? If they support legalization what does it say?.. they stand up for real justice and not imprisoning decent people? Or that they stand up for the companies that can make Billions selling weed?
The second one is the real reason weed will be federally legal in the next 5 to 15 years.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Apr 17, 2015 - 08:52am PT
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