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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2014 - 02:43pm PT
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Chim chim,
I bet that the black object in the two photos you posted are full scale replicas of your body part that lead to you getting called shorty.
shorty Dan
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altieboo
Social climber
Das Blase
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Dec 22, 2014 - 07:59pm PT
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What really disappoints me about this thread, other then not understanding half of it, is that it's rather upsetting.
I've had the privilege of climbing with Dingus, even hanging his own draws for him on a route he established likely before I knew my multiplication tables. I've also had the honor of not only climbing with Ed many times, but also having him as a mentor, who still to this day, drops a moresol of perspective from time to time on life, love and the pursuit of happiness.
What is truly, truly sad is that I know, without a doubt, these two would have a blast holding a rope for each other. And that is the upsetting part.
I may be buzzed from some tasty Yuengling, but other then having dinner with George Lowe and lunch with Jim Whittaker, I have never been in such close proximity of amazing individuals.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 22, 2014 - 08:12pm PT
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I've climbed with Dingus and I had a blast, don't know how he felt about it, but I always enjoy an outing with McGee...
[EDIT] I know this factoid only makes the thread more confusing...
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Dec 22, 2014 - 11:01pm PT
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Nice shot The Chief..as usual...rj
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 22, 2014 - 11:48pm PT
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Mike Friedrichs and myself introduced Ed and Dingus, and we've all climbed together and shared laughs, belays and camping at at least there crags. Life is odd....
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Dec 23, 2014 - 12:02am PT
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Is it life that is odd, or the funhouse-mirror version of life that seems to be a feature of internet discourse that is odd?
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2014 - 07:46am PT
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What an overly sensitive group here on ST. Not to mention the lack of reading comprehension skills present that must lead them to overtly wrong conclusions.
I could give or setup for the rascal Bob Scarpelli a similar roast and he would be laughing his head off.
He knows that there are few universals applicable to most things [people included] and that one good counterexample to a universal changes the context of the statement from all, never or none to some.
Most judgments about people would be better served if we silently add the word some. I didn't do it here.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 23, 2014 - 08:30am PT
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We're just built for butt hurt!
A good human observation well stated.
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 23, 2014 - 08:32am PT
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Milktoast for the win
and McGee just stop wasting your life with this stoopid sh!t give us more real world hardware tips and construction ideas .....
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 23, 2014 - 09:43am PT
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I wonder if he skiis? I can't recall him ever talking about it.
I skied a few times, but I'm dangerous... I don't like to talk about the reasons (since it sounds like male bragging) but I found that I don't have a fear of going fast and being out of control. And skiing takes place on moderate slopes, compared to climbing, I can't gauge the peril, so I'm up to try any ski run, even those way beyond my skill.
This is a general problem for me, so I have eschewed the "human projectile sports" more or less... I recognized this in my youth driving motorcycles with little regard to physical law... bicycling riding somehow crept in, but a 1/2hp motor doesn't lead you to much danger, except when used to ascend to a point from which to descend.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Dec 23, 2014 - 10:52am PT
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Dingy wrote
Jim Brennnan,
you ask
Please offer up you education and acumen involving physics, climatology and mathematics
the short version: In 1970 Dr. Ralph Hunsinger offered me a research grant to make a one dimensional cloud model at Atmospheric Science SDSM&T. I decided to figure out how rocks break instead.
Yeah so what? I held a fellowship at Purdue that doesn't make me an expert. Also getting offered grant $ and being successful with grant $ are two very very different things. Lots of good sales men out there but who knows IF you could or couldn't have delivered. You never tried.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2014 - 10:53am PT
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Ed,
from you,
I wonder if he skiis?
Seem you mean me? Yes, I do ski, but I can see that we have different problems. I learned to check my speed in every manner I could and I have no great desire to go fast.
I like maneuvering, no thrills from the open slopes so I ski moguls and trees but each event with different skis.
My problem: Some of my friends have taken me to their favorite places [narrow chutes] in the worst of conditions. Retreat is about impossible.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2014 - 11:13am PT
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kev,
the point of my post is that if you are offered a grant without solicitation, someone else other than you felt you knew something about the topic unless they are desperate to get someone as it sounds you are in this case -- Desperate to prove what non sense of a handle you can get on me.
You have added the word expert. I made no such claim other than possibly the implied point that this offer to Jim Brennan's polite request may be construed to mean I understand the climatology, physics and the math of the topic of global warming.
I feel some "untrained" people are capable of making a good arguments and sound observations hence I do not need to know their background to give them consideration.
Edit:
Apparently you need not be known as expert to be ask to review papers. A group here at UW were to present some papers for the Jounal of Rational Mechanics. They ask me if I would review them. After several days of denial they agreed that I was correct and they were mistaken in some aspects of multipart momentum transfer. They told me I would be second in the authorship of the paper. I told to them to forget it as I did not need to be known as an expert in this particular part of J Rat Mech. Inadvertently, my name appeared last of the group on these papers.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2014 - 11:53am PT
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DMT,
that was a great movie, thanks for reminding me.
Didn't the old man win?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 23, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
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How about something a little more cutting edge, such as non-vectorial mechanics or take it up a notch and wrap your mind around some Hamiltonian-Jacobi Mechanics applied in a robotic context.
RATIONAL mECHANICS IS SO OLD SCHOOL, Thats what IM TALKING
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
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Studly,
Are you adding to the cutting edge or is this just mindless name dropping? Nothing of my past is cutting edge today. But we can think of you as a know it all cutting edge hero for your post?
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Dec 23, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
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Ed said;
I don't like to talk about the reasons (since it sounds like male bragging) but I found that I don't have a fear of going fast and being out of control
Sounds like you should take up big wave surfing. ;)
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Dec 23, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
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"human projectile sports"
Ha! Skiing can certainly become that having hit trees and rocks myself not to mention star fishing down a slope. But what I really hate is when climbing becomes a human projectile sport!!! Too funny.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Dec 23, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
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I skied a few times, but I'm dangerous...
Just think you could have been a stunt man. If they had cast Jerry Garcia instead of Roger Moore in "The Spy Who Loved Me" you could have been his stunt double!
I know, I know, I'm dumb.
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