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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Sep 15, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
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Tami-
And Julie Brugger was killin' the offwidths still in the 1980s.
Julie's a Tucsonan now.
Deuce- do the Flag boys factor in, in your mind? Hockin' them little units...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 15, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
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Jefe, ask Julie about Weigelt changing the the flat tire without a tire iron.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Sep 15, 2014 - 09:34pm PT
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Anyone else remember that guy named Paul who wore a huge, red, expedition down parka all the time. Very positive guy, but that parka. . .
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Meaty
climber
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Sep 15, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
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Big Wall, done them all.... Everest Paul
Speaking of strong women climbers from that time....Catherine Freer....RIP.
Just to set the record straight again...Duece says he's above the fray?
"But then I see this nitpicky age-old battle taking over the thread."
"But in the larger scheme of things, what climbing has provided to the soul and character--the "credit" for the climb seems a bit less important, no?"
But a few years ago right here in this forum in a thread about bolt choppping.. duece posted this:
Jan 14, 2012 - 03:48am PT - Bolt removal list for 2012
"how 'bout that route to the right of Outer Limits, where the bolts are within reach of one of the finest crack climb in the valley?"
No, the bolts on Satanic Mechanic are not within reach of Outer Limits, why are you nitpicky and lying??... and if you go chop them don't forget to chop Wheat Thin you hypocrite!!
So in 2012 and likely today you're still one of those people that wants to chop bolts, pretty sad duece!! Don't nitpick, get out there and chop!!!
So when you make the hollow claim it's nitpicking, your path is righteous because you're above all that silly stuff, all one must do is read your post here from 2012 to prove how full of crap you actually are.
Nitpicker in 2012.....but now somehow you've forgotten urging folks to chop bolts placed on 1989?
You didn't fool me John, you're a bald faced hypocrite.
Yes, I have the same amount of respect for you too duece....ZERO!
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lars johansen
Trad climber
West Marin, CA
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Sep 23, 2014 - 10:21am PT
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Chuck "Skull Queen" Clance
lars
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burnin' vernon
climber
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Sep 23, 2014 - 11:43am PT
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Spent a LOT of time at the crags, back in the day. Pretty much well known amongst locals of the day that Tracy Dorton was a thief who subsidized his lifestyle by ripping off other climbers and hence deserves no mention here.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 01:10pm PT
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Burnin Verm, I don't ever recall Tracy being accused as a thief. He did seem to get in trouble with LEO from time to time, but among climbers he was a steady member of the rescue team.
Stealing gear from fellow climbers was considered the lowest form of low, so that's a pretty serious accusation. It doesn't sound right to me, unless something happened after my time in the valley that I never heard about.
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burnin' vernon
climber
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Sep 23, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
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I eschew bad mouthing other climbers. Suffice to say the 'crimes' were pretty egregious for me to say anything. I was one of his victims. Not huge value items, at least for me, but little things that add up. Ping Watusi.
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Heloise Pendagrast
Trad climber
Tahoe City
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Sep 24, 2014 - 04:49pm PT
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Kool Times. Anyone remember Mike Artz from West Virginia? And his girlfriend the New Freedom Woman?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Sep 24, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
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Chris Cantwell deserves some recognition . . . he was totally cool to us young dudes on our frequent visits to the Valley in them days. Some of the elite Valley-centric climbers were totally aloof and not very friendly. My personal thanks to Uncle Mike Forkash for climbing some quality Tuolumne routes with me . . . Golden Bars and Ursula especially.
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Sep 24, 2014 - 06:44pm PT
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Mike Artz! He's still at it, as is another right-coast Powerhouse-Eric Horst! (Although these days Erics boys are the ones tearing it up.)
Never forget the time a gang of us were working a new line at Bubba City. WAY HARD nobody really even coming close when up walks Mike,cold beer in hand.
After a few more beers and a fatty, he cruised the thing first try.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Sep 24, 2014 - 07:04pm PT
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I had a great chat with Grant Hiskes last night. He said to say hello to everyone. John, I remember my WFR class at Phil's house in JTree. One morning we were all sitting in the living room and Grant was lecturing away and all of a sudden we heard this loud screaming and somebody running into the back yard. We all rush out, you have a plastic knife sticking out of you, and the first thing you said was "TUCKER DID IT"!
We didn't need any more coffee after that!
Robert
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OR
Trad climber
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Sep 24, 2014 - 08:40pm PT
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Hmmm I remember Tracy. That was like 89-94sh in the Valley,.. no?
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Sep 24, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
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Great thread, really brings back memories of some of the best carefree days of my youth. Always had a great trip to the ditch in the 80's! Climbed with a slew of characters such as Young strong Dave, K. Fosburg ,Paul Turecki, Junior, The infamous Dick Cilley, Swilliam,Ned Guy and many others. And let's not forget the "Travel Agent" aka the Mission. Peace ,Steve S.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Sep 24, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
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Come on, everybody! Let's hear some stories - like the twelve pack (or more) of OE hauled up to Bishop's Balcony for sunset from the deli with the gang and only one devastator doobie! Names are fine, but more details, please!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Sep 24, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
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Ah yes, the 80's. Chillin' in Hell Portal, 1987. Sign boosted from the park, Lawn furniture stolen one drunken night from the lodge.
Those were different times.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Sep 26, 2014 - 09:48am PT
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Sounds like they belong to a kleptocracy...?
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2014 - 01:34pm PT
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Lots of little stories of colourful personalities.
Take Dave Altman for instance. He lived in Berkeley, and would sojourn to Yosemite a few times every year with some hardcore project climbs in mind, which he would steadfastly and progressively achieve. We called him, "the world's strongest man", he was one of the few who could do a bonafide set of one arm pull-ups. He often carried a well worn ancient book about amazing human feats--I was most impressed with the picture of the two brothers, one doing a one-arm handstand, with the other hand holding a rope taught to a tree. The other brother was doing a handstand on the suspended rope (this was at a time we were refining and advancing the webbing tightrope techniques pioneered by Jeff and Adam).
But Dave's favourite was a man holding a 10 pound bowling ball by a pin. He considered it one of the more amazing feats in the book, and he had built himself a series of training tools to replicate the feat, and would frequently update us on his progress over the years. Never knew if he eventually mastered that particular feat, but many others in the book he had done.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
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^^^sounds like a Fish story about psycho Luke...
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2014 - 01:47pm PT
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There definitely was a grim side. Like the time some members of the rescue team visited the Deli, their hands still covered with blood after a gory murder suicide body recovery below Glacier Point. Story goes that after some olde E and deli sandwiches the blood on the hands was all gone.
I wasn't there on that one so can't comment on veracity.
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