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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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With that in mind, there are probably way more than 932 deaths.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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jstan, yes, going to an African hospital might not be your best option.
But in a real hospital they can treat your symptoms and possibly save you.
The LA Times published a telling photo today of a man who collapsed in a
puddle in the middle of a street in Conakry. Three or four policemen are
seen maintaining a cordon while, presumably, they wait for an ambulance.
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overwatch
climber
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"doc bs"...gotta be a troll. As long as you are sure, whew!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Ken questioned . You are telling me that it is part of the protocol to have people jump off the back of ambulances? What if he fell? Do you think that fancy isolation uniform would survive an impact with the cement? Do you think his skin would?
The guy is not a giant bag of disease ready to pop like a character from Left4Dead.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
If he fell and tore his suit they'd dump some bleach on the ground, perhaps slap another gown on him (or not) and keep moving and everything would be just fine. Your reaction is the definition of hysterical.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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even if he is hysterical it would seem a wheel chair or gurney would be the protocol. it seems like they are more concerned with trying to convey that it's nothing to worry about than they are with being careful.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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If he fell and tore his suit they'd dump some bleach on the ground, perhaps slap another gown on him (or not) and keep moving and everything would be just fine. Your reaction is the definition of hysterical.
Take a look at the video. I don't see anybody with a bottle of bleach.
But in that scenario, the isolation would be broken. It has escaped the isolation protocol WHICH THEY SAY CAN NOT HAPPEN.
You are undoubtedly right about how they would attempt to handle it. That's not my point. My point is that they are telling you that things are impossible, which even you stipulate are NOT impossible.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Ken posted Take a look at the video. I don't see anybody with a bottle of bleach.
Well then I apologize. They clearly are putting the whole world at risk of dying horribly assuming that the guy fell on the street, spilled bodily fluids onto the ground and then we all went and rolled around on that spot before someone had time to get some bleach.
Ken stated You are undoubtedly right about how they would attempt to handle it. That's not my point. My point is that they are telling you that things are impossible, which even you stipulate are NOT impossible.
I never said anything was impossible. I'm pointing out that the faults you're picking are made largely out of ignorance and over the top. If someone was to be exposed it would likely be because someone mishandled themselves during decontamination or in the disposal of infectious materials, not because the guy didn't get out of the ambulance in a gurney. Most contact-transmitted diseases are protected against with nothing more than a simple gown (a smock, basically) and gloves followed by sanitizer or handwashing. The precautions they are using are so insanely beyond that it's not even comparable.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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This pretty much sums it up. Please pay attention.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Are you a climber? Then that won't be hard to accomplish
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2717762/People-dropping-dead-Ebola-streets-Liberia.html
Now Ebola victims are left to rot in the streets: Terrified relatives dump them outside for fear of catching deadly virus
Relatives of Ebola victims are dragging their bodies onto streets of Liberia
Disease-ridden bodies are left to rot in view of everyone, including children
A young man lies dead in the streets of Liberia, left to rot in view of passers-by and local children.
He is just one of many Ebola victims to have been dragged out of their homes and dumped on the country's roads by terrified relatives in a desperate bid to avoid being quarantined.
The deadly virus, which can cause victims to suffer from severe bruising and bleeding from the eyes and mouth, has claimed the lives of nearly 900 people across West Africa so far.
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
Shocking: Relatives of Ebola victims in Liberia have started dragging their loved ones' bodies out of their homes and dumping them on the streets in a bid to avoid being quarantined. Above, a man walks past the dead body
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David Knopp
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 12, 2014 - 08:58am PT
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my wife is a virologist with impeccable academic and industry credentials; her job is to find and systematically analyze new viruses. She suggests it is unlikely that Ebola will mutate to the point where aerial transmission is possible-and that the experiment described where Ebola was transmitted via aerosols was hugely contrived. I hope she's right... She usually is...
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Sep 30, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
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Aieee! Zombie apocalypse has arrived.
At least it started in Texas.
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ClimberDave
Trad climber
The LBC, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 02:50pm PT
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Awesome!
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Sep 30, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
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Winter is coming!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Sep 30, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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my wife is a virologist with impeccable academic and industry credentials; her job is to find and systematically analyze new viruses. She suggests it is unlikely that Ebola will mutate to the point where aerial transmission is possible-and that the experiment described where Ebola was transmitted via aerosols was hugely contrived. I hope she's right... She usually is...
As another virologist, I'm much more cautious.
Underlying her assumption is the concept that we fully understand how this virus functions.
The lie to that assumption is what is happening right now. We are seeing a vast epidemic, where in the past there have been only small outbreaks. We thought we understood what would happen with this virus.
We didn't.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Sep 30, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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Yikes!
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