New fire south of Idyllwild

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apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jul 19, 2013 - 08:34pm PT

I believe that photo belongs to Jenny Kirchner, an Idyllwild local. She is a longtime, hardworking photographer for the Town Crier (amongst many other projects).

http://jennykphoto.photoshelter.com/gallery/Mountain-Fire/G0000clzvymD18_s/C0000.1aZ_Iurgts

She deserves special credit for it, along with the many other great images she's captured related to this fire (and many other important Idyllwild events).

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Jul 19, 2013 - 10:52pm PT

Good luck to everyone up there, and to one of my favorite cragging areas. Very sad to see this happen. They say it's arson? I've heard there is some witchcraft in those parts. I'm sure they could come up with a suitable disposition for the offender.

Regarding the photo credit, this digital world has hurt a lot of people in terms of the value of what they create. Think about it the next time you "rip" a cd. Sorry for the OT, but that picture belongs to the photographer and could have financial value.

Great picture btw. But I get to see it without buying a newspaper, or watching a commercial sponsored TV show, or a website with ads? Some source of revenue for the photographer?

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber

joshua tree

Jul 19, 2013 - 11:00pm PT

That was a Great one Weeg!
My sentiments exactly.

Jon Beck

Trad climber

Oceanside

Jul 19, 2013 - 11:41pm PT

Think about it the next time you "rip" a cd. Sorry for the OT, but that picture belongs to the photographer and could have financial value.

Ripping CDs you own is perfectly legal. So is pinching pictures under the Fair Use Doctrine. http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/copyright-fair-use-and-how-it-works-for-online-images/

Most pictures are not worth much money.

Fair use does not require you to credit the artist, but it is considered good style to do so.

Gersh

Trad climber

San Diego, Ca

Jul 20, 2013 - 12:10am PT

Great link, Ward. There's Thaquitz just left of the upper left-hand margin of the fire line, at the tip of the snow-covered hook. Suicide at around ten o'clock from there. Best wishes to all.

froodish

Social climber

Portland, Oregon

Jul 20, 2013 - 12:15am PT

Wow, great photo. Best wishes to all the Idyllwild residents.

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Jul 20, 2013 - 12:52am PT

Ripping CDs you own is perfectly legal. So is pinching pictures under the Fair Use Doctrine.

Ripping a CD you already paid for? No problemo. Same goes for images.

How's the fire look tonight guys? Hopefully moving away?

Ward Trotter

Trad climber

Jul 20, 2013 - 01:33am PT

Those of you with Google Earth go to

http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/googleearth.php

Click " current" on KLM bundle.

Once you get on google earth
Zoom in on "mountain" fire.

By playing with locations you can get some good rotationals on the proximity of this fire in relation to Tahquitz Peak and the affected ridge lines.

10b4me

Ice climber

Middle-of-Nowhere, Arizona

Jul 20, 2013 - 01:45am PT

if the monsoon comes in, the wind will come in from the east, which may drive it over the ridge, and down into Humber park.

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber

joshua tree

Jul 20, 2013 - 01:51am PT

The wind is really whip'en in JTree to night!
From the west. Should keep it away from idyllwild.
Try and get some sleep.
Pray'in for ur safety.

johntp

Trad climber

socal

Jul 20, 2013 - 01:54am PT

Who gives a f about ripping CDs at this point. Sometimes the stupidity of this forum is alarming.

edit: it just seems irrelative and pointless given what is going on to piss about ripping CDs.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:07am PT

Bumping away from thread drift

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:09am PT

"They say it's arson?"

That's not the buzz around town. More like an inadequately wired or protected well pump that shorted out just west of Mountain Center. Totally unconfirmed at this point, mind you.

Trad climber

JTree & Idyllwild

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:10am PT

Praying for a little rain and calm winds this weekend

Ksolem

Trad climber

Monrovia, California

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:13am PT

it just seems irrelative and pointless given what is going on to piss about ripping CDs.

Whatever. Climbing in Idyllwild is roots for me, any one who knows me knows that. Sorry if the OT post bothered you.

I hope for the best possible outcome here.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:15am PT

which may drive it over the ridge, and down into Humber park.

Actually the data conveyed in the Google Earth/ forest service link I gave above has had one arm of the fire coming down to within a mile or so of Humber Park , down a canyon that is roughly northeast of Suicide Rock, sometime in the last 24 hrs.
Probably around the time of the Kirchner photo I posted above.
No current data on the progress of the fire in that area. Hopefully it does not go any lower and then down into Humber proper.

jstan

climber

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:18am PT

From inciweb at a little after 11PM

Weather and Fire Behavior forecasts predicted that the fire would continue to burn aggressively and would generate a significant smoke column. These kinds of smoke columns are often capable of creating unstable weather conditions fires including thunderstorms, lightning and erratic winds. Fortunately these weather conditions did not materialize over the Mountain Fire today and firefighters were able to make good progress on the fire.
Firefighters constructed fire-line along the ridgeline east of Idyllwild and Pine Cove. Crews also made excellent progress on the southeast side near Trails End on Morris Ranch Road in Garner Valley.
Tonight, moisture is predicted from the East/Southeast and will move across the fire area. Cloud cover may increase through Saturday morning. Firefighters will focus their efforts overnight on constructing additional containment lines on the southern flank of the fire.

Equipment on-Scene:
3,478 firefighters, including 260 engines, 20 helicopters, 10 fixed wing aircraft, including two DC-10s (Tanker 910 and 911), 68 hand-crews, 30 water-tenders, and 15 dozers.

GDavis

Social climber

SOL CAL

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:24am PT

Can you explain what that means? I'm ignorant on the topic... 68 handcrews =? Is that like 68 squadrons?

johntp

Trad climber

socal

Jul 20, 2013 - 02:40am PT

Whatever. Climbing in Idyllwild is roots for me, any one who knows me knows that. Sorry if the OT post bothered you.

I hope for the best possible outcome here.

Kris - Yeah, me too.

edit: Peace