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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Apr 28, 2012 - 02:03pm PT
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Great thread. Some wild designs!
Here's my Chouinard hammers:
These are the great for desert aid climbing, cleaning out--and locating!--mud-filled seams.
The center one has the original webbing, in purple:
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 28, 2012 - 02:40pm PT
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The center one has the original webbing, in purple:
My guess is the purple sling isn't original to that hammer. That hammer is circa pre 1972 (no notch under the stiking surface). Not sure kn was in use at that time.
Great selection of "mudders"!
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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Apr 28, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
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Hmmmm. You might well be right. Maybe that was added later, a replacement or something. The 17Kn refers the sling itself, not the whole setup
Scored that one off eBay, way cheap, probably because the black tape covered up the inscription on the handle. My current fave, as it's a tad heavier without that notch.
The one on the right I replaced the handle, not very well, with some framing hammer handle. The hammer just left of center I recall at some point an inch or so just vanished, broke off somehow, never even noticed when it happened.
As far as wear and tear, Harvey Carter's old hammer has to be the most worn out, ever:
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 28, 2012 - 05:38pm PT
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Wow, that's a stubby!
My trusty Grivel Thor pales in comparison:
New one:
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covelocos
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Apr 28, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
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My friend bought this with a rack of pins in an Addidas gym bag at a garage sale in Santa Rosa for $25!
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Apr 28, 2012 - 10:21pm PT
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SOLVED Brian.
You can search cage codes at the Defense Logistics site (my co has a cage code too) I entered it and here's the co that Mfg your "hammer, hand":
"
CAGE Code: 02154
CAGE Information
Company Name: ROYSON ENGINEERING COMPANY
Status: Active Record
Parent CAGE:
Address: 100 N PENN ST
P.O. Box:
City: HATBORO
Zip: 19040
CAO-ADP: S3915A-HQ0337
State: PA
County:
Voice Phone Number: 2156752800
Fax Phone Number: 2156753035
Date CAGE Code Established: 10/25/1974
Last Updated: 1/25/2007
Point of Contact: ED ULLMAN
Company Web Site: http://WWW.ROYSON.COM"
Found here: http://www.dlis.dla.mil/BINCS/details.aspx?CAGE=02154&DUNS=014198337&JCP=0004853
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 29, 2012 - 02:11am PT
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^^^Fantastic. Thanks!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
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Today's mystery mallet...
No maker's mark of any sort...
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Blakey
Trad climber
Newcastle UK
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May 13, 2012 - 02:02pm PT
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Looks a tad French to me, from the late 60s early 70s - Simond perhaps?
The shaft and it's manner of attachment look a little 'after market' ;-)
Steve
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 13, 2012 - 02:16pm PT
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It's gold!
It's a proto of Robbins' earliest design (we all remember that story) incorporating--"for display purposes"--a handle from a large paint brush his father-in-law had given him; the bristles had been damaged from sitting in the store window. Royal scavenged the handle. I don't know about the head or the hardware. Or anything, for that matter...
lol
mfm
I vote it's Euro-trash.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2012 - 02:57pm PT
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The handle is pretty distinct down to the sling hole.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 13, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
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Some Steve Roper hoax? lol to RR, too.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
merced, california
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May 13, 2012 - 06:45pm PT
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Here's my salute to Mark the Goat for the fine lettering of "Geek" because I appreciate a good "hand." (For those n00bs who never learned penmanship, one's "hand" gave you some "class." I guess Mark had some. Old times, Old Goats.
"Heidi Hammer"
Entering "New Dimension," Captain.
Roger?
No, I'm Mouse. I'm just the bombardier."
The sound of the hammers is gone (okay, generally)
But yet their echo lives on
Something bong? (too FN obvious these clowns'd never get it)
Just a buncha old hammers
Reformed iron slammers
Sucking beer in their jammers
But minding there manners
Trying not to be bored
Or worse yet ignored
Buncha tools.
This is an amazing assembly of whackers, everybody. Thanks.
(That's what SHE said.)
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Brian in SLC: I got this information from a good friend of mine (and "ice axe world class specialist") this morning. He asked me to post it here. What you call a Handgeschmiedet Hammer (hand-forged hammer) is not an ice climbing tool. (There is a similar hammer sold on eBay at the moment). In fact, the roofers use this kind of hammer to cut a slate. The key hole is used to pull the nails out. Stubai, in Austria, still produces such hammers currently.
Stephane
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Crag Q
Trad climber
Louisville, Colorado
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Cool thread!
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throwpie
Trad climber
Berkeley
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There's this....
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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I ran through the pictures on this thread and didn't see a hammer like the one I purchased in about 1972. I am guessing that someone at Chounard's shop elongated the tip--maybe the same person who elongated the Dolt pin.
Ken Yager has these now, so I cannot inspect them except by looking at this photo.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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That's a very-first generation Alpine Hammer before the curved pick deal took off. Euro hammers of that era looked the same.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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That might be right, Todd. Yvon and Tom were starting to produce alpine gear and this might have been an early version. But pretty soon thereafter, the alpine hammers were longer, curved, and had teeth on the underside. As I recall, I could always identify my hammer because it was the only one with its shape. We were early adopters of clean climbing and the pointy end was very useful in cleaning out cracks or dislodging poorly placed nuts.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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That was the very hammer that was used to create those sweet fnger pockets on the first pitch of Serenity Crack. Phew.....it woukdn't have been another overcrowded 5.10 without those loving...tap, taps....ping, pings!
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