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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Oct 26, 2011 - 11:54am PT
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I like plaidmans boots...
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apogee
climber
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:00pm PT
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Plaidman, you gotta repost your TR under a new, separate thread. This one's pretty contaminated.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:08pm PT
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It's also a good way for 'elcapstuckuphisass' to get his "balls" kicked down his throat...cuz thems fightin words were i come from, calling someone a ballcupper and then a kumbaya sissy in the same sentence.
edit: correction: I should have said "get his balls kicked up his "ass"(where his head is)!
AWESOME. Internet toughguy syndrome claims another victim. In reality:
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Burt
Big Wall climber
Blue Diamond, NV
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:28pm PT
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This has got to be the best thread going on the taco... from roping up on class 2 to YOSAR shout outs, slander and name calling, and ball cupping. This has it all...
...plaid you should have videoed the YOSAR call, now that would have completely made this come full circle
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:31pm PT
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Werner's too busy hating ravens to rescue anyone......
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:52pm PT
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Plaid is way to honest with what he puts out there. He climbs almost every day as far as Ive seen, the guy is always out at one crag or another and since he got laidoff from his constuction crew, he has been non stop.
He has come a long ways in the last few years since his Snake Dike nighttime epic by dropping 20-30 pounds, training hard, and going for it on hard climbs even if they are over his ability. He takes whippers on trad gear on hard sh#t, ice climbs waterfalls, climbs mountains, sport climbs, just loves to climb. Put him down all you want for whatever reason you can drum up if thats what makes you feel better about yourself, but I doubt he really gives a sh#t, but for those of us that know him, he is a stand up guy, cares about his partners, and in a situation when the chips are down, you know you can count on him.
My hat is off to the Plaidman for doing this Oregonlive Blog thing, its something hes trying to do to get some revenue and gear, so that he can climb since hes not exactly rich.
Here's a photo of him this summer leading a multipitch multicrux trad 5.10 at Beacon Rock in 95 degree heat. He had never done the route, and wanted to try to onsite it, and I said I'd belay him on it. He had to take a hang on the 3rd pitch crux when he ran out of wide gear and had to sling a loose block, but he got it done. The guy has tenacity.
Here's Plaid leading the 3rd pitch of a water fall climb at Starvation Creek. This was several years ago when I first met him. He just showed up out in the middle of no where with a rope and tools going solo, so we had him join us.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Oct 26, 2011 - 12:55pm PT
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I love trip reports by mere mortals, little epics where the nerves are frazzled, hyperventilation occurs, but no real bodily harm happened. I love people who are serious about their fun. Plaidman's exploits have tempted me to try some of the classic cascade choss lines, and fun has been served up in large portions.
It isn't all about 5.15's.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:06pm PT
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If we're honest, many of our most memorable climbs are mini-epics when we were nOObs. Experiences to be both proud and embarrassed about. Why shouldn't we talk about them around a campfire?
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:13pm PT
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Thanks Studly. You are a great climbing partner/teacher and a good friend.
These things are hard to find and I am certainly blessed by the best friends I have ever had in my life. Climbing has given so much to me. Great friends are just one of them.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:17pm PT
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Mighty Hiker
^^^^^^+++++++
That would pretty much describe over 1/2 of my multipitch climbs the first year or two.
Let me tell you the one about stepping on my own rope as I was attempting the 5.6 roof on the 3rd pitch of Wind Ridge, as my left hand was being stung by wasps that it was sharing the pocket with. I unceremoniously landed on the big belay ledge (thankfully) with a big bruise on my butt and a sprained ankle. Then, I made the traverse of shame to the talus field and gingerly hobbled back to the car.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:18pm PT
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Wow 130 posts stirred up. You peeps have been busy!
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apogee
climber
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:33pm PT
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Man, sometimes I wish there was a way for the consensus of users of this forum to nuke a thread. Every once in a while, some jerk comes along and leaves a turd that can't be cleaned up.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:43pm PT
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:49pm PT
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so elcapinyourbutt, any useable critiques for plaidman that might be a positive contribution?
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:52pm PT
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No worries apogee, Plaid has learned that there are approx 2 haters and whatever how many "cuppers".
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:54pm PT
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I think PTCC has a positive intention, to make plaidman aware of things he may or may not be aware he can improve on, but there's room to channel it in a more considerate way. It's one thing to give sh!t to your buddies who know you already accept them. It's a gray area on Internet forums when you've never interacted with someone. It's easy to slip into that comfortable sh!t-talking mode with complete strangers if we do it with our closer friends, and you see other people interacting with someone you don't know in that way (because maybe in real life they are closer or they've developed that virtual rapport).
But different people react in very different ways, and feeling accepted or appreciated is not a given amongst a group of virtual friends/strangers/whatever on an internet forum. So some caution and restraint is in order if you want to be considerate of other people's feelings when you don't know they'll take it well. Some children do not exercise this caution because they haven't learned how to consider things from perspectives other than their own, and this is where we get the "3rd grade playground" comments. It's not evil bullying, it's just life lessons to learn.
And we all know life lessons never stop presenting themselves!
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Burt
Big Wall climber
Blue Diamond, NV
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:55pm PT
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Total devils advocate here, f*#k climb what you want, epic, die, solo, whatever, do your own thing... but....
Plaid now that you have some more rock under the ole stick rubber, would you advocate starting up a route that at the time was at your limit, with a big approach, bigger decent, no topo, that late in the day, and film the thing? I am asking as a guy who honestly just wants to know and not cut you down. We have all done stupid sh#t, I have slept on climbs that I shouldn't have and look back now and go god damn I was was stupid! So while PTCC is out of line (but funny if you get the panties out of the innards of your ass and quit taking this sh#t so seriously its rock climbing for Christs sake) he is asking a legitimate question. Plaid do you feel that now with the added years under your belt this was the best decision? Would you tell others to do the same or use better judgment when it comes to the mountains? Don't get me wrong, epics are a great foundation of climbing and what not to do, but stuff like video, calling YOSAR, or talking about it on some website like it was the cu de gras seems like a little over the top.
Good on you Plaid, I wish the best for you, I hope this wasn't taking out of context, again I wish you the best and lots of happy times out on the cliffs. Hell email me if you ever have a question if I can't answer it I will find someone that can. Cheers
Kurtburt
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Oct 26, 2011 - 01:58pm PT
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would you advocate starting up a route that at the time was at your limit, with a big approach, bigger decent, no topo, that late in the day, and film the thing?
Ha!! That's all I did in the beginning, minus the filming of course since I couldn't afford two sticks to rub together.....
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nutjob
Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
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Oct 26, 2011 - 02:06pm PT
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would you advocate starting up a route that at the time was at your limit, with a big approach, bigger decent, no topo, that late in the day, and film the thing?
I would, but that's just me! Here's one example (actually two examples, because we did it twice):
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Absolutely-Free-to-Hawkmans-Escape/t322n.html
Direct link to the video :)
http://www.vimeo.com/4776865
The extent to which this is adventure and drama or comedy or juvenile stupidity is relative to your level experience.
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