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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:06am PT
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The rich that sit on their earnings are a drag on our economy...If they won't get off their asses and create jobs then it's time to tax the damnned leeches and let the government create some jobs...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:08am PT
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Someone please show me where tax breaks for corporations or the ultra wealthy have created new (that means additional) jobs. Cash reserves for those entities are at all time highs. Get a clue.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:10am PT
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I kinda agree with your premiss, Jstan, and that was what I was talking about earlier.
Close loopholes! Everybody pays their fair share. Regardless.
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Blue..the tea baggers are a bunch of co-dependent dupes manipulated by the kochs and other uber-rich americans that con you into voting against raising taxes on them so that you can pay more taxes...
No, they're not idiot! I'm a tea-bagger and I don't support the Koch bros. I support reduced spending and smaller gov't.
Where do you idiots get this crap???
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apogee
climber
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:11am PT
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premise
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:13am PT
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Someone please show me where tax breaks for corporations or the ultra wealthy have created new (that means additional) jobs.
They don't pay them.
Loopholes....
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apogee
climber
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:15am PT
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"Someone please show me where tax breaks for corporations or the ultra wealthy have created new (that means additional) jobs."
Yeah, I'd like to see that, too- corporations are currently sitting on record levels of cash- and yet, no jobs.
What's up w/ that, Repugs? The system is just like you want it- lowest corporate tax rates in decades, loopholes galore, lax enforcement- and the corporations are HUGE with cash. Still....no jobs. Are you sure you understand economics in 2011?
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apogee
climber
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:18am PT
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"I'm a tea-bagger and I don't support the Koch bros."
Oh YES YOU DO....!!!
(Whether you know it or not)
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:19am PT
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Bluering...So how do you justify the wasteful pentagon budget that robs the less fortunate Americans of the economic freedom guaranteed in the constitution..? You sound like the great communist Lenin , talking out both sides of your mouth...?
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apogee
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:20am PT
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My bad...you Repugs understand economics in 2011 quite well...it's all about corporate profits, and destroy the middle class (that threatens your corporate profits). Helluva job, Brownie!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:21am PT
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Bluering...So how do you justify the wasteful pentagon budget that robs the less fortunate Americans of the economic freedom guaranteed in the constitution..? You sound like the great communist Lenin , talking out both sides of your mouth...?
No, I don't support waste, but I do support the Pentagon's mission. Fix it!
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apogee
climber
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:22am PT
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BOOM!
That was badasssssss!!!!1111666999
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:24am PT
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Apogee, the multi-nationals like Apple and GE are exempt, while middle America pays it's dues. That's a problem. Tax shelters.
These are the same people that sell-out our manufacturing to China. Thanks, Assholes!!!!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:26am PT
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Crickets.........
Oh well, Sarah or Michelle will sort it out. Or maybe Mitt....
How about some innovation instead of the same tired crap that hasn't worked for 20 years.
Oh wait, that would require some new ideas.....
Never mind
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kenny morrell
Trad climber
danville,ca
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:28am PT
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hi patty! I to lost a ton on paper and that sucks.one problem I see is like you I don't have time to re-coup the older we get the less time we have to gain it back. i hope things are going well for you on the that beautiful island. take care, peace kenny
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:30am PT
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The jobs ain't coming back. Profits are up and payroll is down. Why would any company want to f*#k with that?
Because if they trade in US dollars and they destroy our economy, they have to succumb to the Yuan and become commies.
That sounds cool for business.....Yeah!!!!!
Maybe I should go into dirt-farming.
EDIT: Have I ever mentioned that I f*#king hate pinkos, AND I F*#KING WARNED YOU IDIOTS ABOUT THIS!!!!!!! GAahhhh!H!H!HH!H!!!!!!!!
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apogee
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:31am PT
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"...the multi-nationals like Apple and GE are exempt, while middle America pays it's dues. That's a problem. Tax shelters."
My guess is that's only partially true, but that's besides the point- you keep yammering about how high corporate tax rates mean no jobs, yet the current system was created by your POTUS, and has only improved for businesses since he left office...and still, the corporations sit on RECORD amounts of cash, and are not creating jobs.
Worse yet, the banking system your POTUS bailed out (continued by Obama) won't lend to anyone who has less than a 850 credit score and 50% collateral. Your POTUS created this system...how come it ain't workin'?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:33am PT
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Bush again.......
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jstan
climber
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:36am PT
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Some data upon which I happened.
http://www.heritageinstitute.com/governance/compensation.htm#The_Ratio_of_Average_CEO_and_Worker
This may have a bearing upon how much of a company's earning go to stockholders.
Oh, and Japan's CEO/worker pay ratio is.........................10.
In the US.........................................................................500
But our firms are much better run than Japan's. Just compare the experience between Toyota and, well any US car company. And of course you can't compare car companies of different size.
Toyota is nearly equal to GM's size, even after all recalls experienced by both companies.
Blue doesn't this crunch your cookies a little. You are on the floor making good product according to budget and on time
while your CEO is playing golf and paying billion dollar fines out of your profits
because he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar?
If that comment was to me, US companies are looking at giving Venezuela a USification too. But they won't outsource Venezuelan jobs to you. They will go to Malaysia.
Thanks John. Blue you need to read up on large companies. Due to cost of production electronics manufacture has moved from
US to
Japan to
S. Korea and now is centered in Singapore
Last I heard Viet Nam is trying to take that business.
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apogee
climber
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:38am PT
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The point is, bluering, that no matter if it had been Shrub or Obama, you keep yammering about how high tax rates mean no jobs.
WWWEEEELLLLLLL, the tax system is about as lax as it's been in decades, and corporations have BUTTLOADS of cash. And still....NO JOBS.
That was your party's idea....how come it ain't workin'?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 10, 2011 - 12:40am PT
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Jstan, they don't have big corps in any of those other countries!
Maybe Japan is an exception, but Venezuela???? C'mon, man!
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