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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 29, 2010 - 07:10pm PT
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Actually you are WRONG Healy. Quite wrong.
Actually I'm not - every word of it applies equally to heterosexuals. Take anal intercourse for example. Disease and tissue damage are certainly a possibility - but that applies equally for homosexuals and heterosexuals. Wanna bet what the ratio of each engaged in the practice tonight? Homosexuals would be an almost insignificant statistic in that measure. Hypersexuality? Again, the number of hypersexual heterosexuals so outnumber gay hypersexuals as to make it again insignificant a measure.
That document is about on par with creation 'science' - written to a belief, not to facts. Get a grip.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 29, 2010 - 07:26pm PT
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Rox,
Again, it is NOT the openly flaming bad behavior gays applying for adoption.
They are NOT the same sex couples that both WANT and can survive the
adoption inspection process to get approved to adopt.
There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between the two groups above.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 29, 2010 - 07:28pm PT
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Fattrad, suck on it anyway.
But thanks.
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ncrockclimber
climber
NC
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Dec 29, 2010 - 07:46pm PT
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Rox,
My experience has been that the most vehemently anti-homosexual individuals are just persecuting others for the qualities that they recognize, dislike and repress in themselves. My guess is that you are not an exception to this rule, and in your heart you really wish you could get past your conflicting emotions and suck a cock. Really, its ok. No one here will judge you. Stop denying yourself and embrace you true desire.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 29, 2010 - 08:18pm PT
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Yeah - closeted republican homosexuals; you always have to wonder about the folks who squawk the loudest about gays and other peoples' behavior. And, as always, if republicans don't like gays they should stop having them as that would cut WAY into their numbers.
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scuffy b
climber
Three feet higher
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Dec 29, 2010 - 08:47pm PT
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Some good reading here, particularly from Cragman and Ghost, Maysho and
Crimpergirl.
Congratulations, Cragman, on your finally landing your daughter.
At the risk of revealing my shallowness, I'd say she's a stunner, aside
from her other qualities.
Kudos and thanks for all the work you do in Ecuador.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 08:54pm PT
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Some good reading here, particularly from Cragman and Ghost, Maysho and Crimpergirl.
I agree completely, Scuffy. But I stick by my thoughts that a mother and father are better for a child, whether they're both gay or not. I won't go into obvious details because getting bashed as a bigot is tiresome...
Peter, glad to hear your thoughts, I think I missed them in the 'fray'.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:10pm PT
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"I guarantee I knew homosexuals that would let ANYBODY do them, and that was the center of their life."
You don't think there are *straight* men, married men, who would let ANYBODY do them? Married men who pick up strange women at clubs, telling their wives all sorts of lies as to what they spent their time doing? Married men who pick up MEN at bars, keeping it from their spouse? Do you know the entymology of the phrase "keeping it on the down low?"
I was good friends with a gay guy who told me a bit of what it used to be like, growing up in small town, USA. He knew he was gay. He'd hitch rides to town, and get offered sex/asked for sex - a lot. He told me that he was nt exagerating when he said he had had sex with nearly every man in his town. A white-bred "it can't happen here" god-fearing pre-Stonewall era town. Him - at 14 years of age. Would you REALLY go so far as to say it's the KID responsible for the sexual interactions he entered into?
THOSE men can adopt children. Or is it somehow okay as long as you present a facade of what is deemed "normal?"
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Leggs
Sport climber
California originally, Old Pueblo presently..
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:15pm PT
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Jefe, that is not an answer to the real issues I bring up.
Its a whipped boy pleading for the beating to stop.
Would you like me to suggest some well known gay hangouts in Tucson, because some of them are BOUND to still exist, and you could go get a first hand taste.
Tucson has a VOCIFEROUS gay community, and I used to know some of them, and the places they kept.
Don't you want to know where you can find blindfolded men chained to benches and walls for the amusement of the other patrons? That was a matinee feature of a place I knew of....
I've lived in Tucson nearly 20 years
and have absolutely no idea what the hell you're referring to...
It would almost be fascinating to know how the hell you know this side Tucson
But the fact of the matter is
You're just a f*#king idiot, who proves
over and over again
just how stupid he is.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:18pm PT
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AGAIN
It is NOT the god damn flaming in your face gays that want to adopt
It is ONLY the multi year committed same sex couple who apply and go
through the rigorous screening process to get approved.
Why WHy is this such a hard concept to grasp?
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ncrockclimber
climber
NC
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:26pm PT
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Rox,
I used to think you were just a delusional as#@&%e that needed to get his meds adjusted, but now it becomes appallingly clear that you are just a deeply conflicted man who cannot come to terms with his deep and abiding homosexual desires.
Just do it Rox; suck a dick. You know that you want one. All that time reading about that "Deviant Homosexual Behavior" has got you all worked up. For once in your sad little life quit talking sh#t, embrace who you are and learn to swallow. No one here will think any less of you.
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nutjob
Trad climber
Berkeley, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:37pm PT
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I notice that nobody who has expressed dissent over homosexual parenting has mustered a specific response to Maysho's definitive post.
For folks who are against homosexual parenting, can you formulate a "Parenting Qualities Checklist", and then indicate which of those are violated as a direct result of being homosexual? I'm looking for things that are problematic for homosexual parents that would not be just as problematic if the parents were heterosexual.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:41pm PT
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Yes, roxjox, hook me up with the beta on ALL the hardcore gay clubs.
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ncrockclimber
climber
NC
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:44pm PT
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I am sorry, but Rox is not able to comment at this time. He has sent me a PM letting me know that he currently has a c*#k in his mouth and will be unavailable for the next few minutes.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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Bluey... you find yourself standing shoulder to shoulder with rocky.
Just thought I'd point that out.
DMT
That's kinda funny actually! In reality I like Rocky. He calls sh#t like he sees it w/o regard for your pc remarks. Anybody that honest, unlike some of you, has my respect, whether you deem it disrespectable or not.
I call 'em like I feel 'em. Call me a bigot. Call me a homo-hater, or whatever. Kids are better with a mom and dad.
As for your opinion of me, do you think I give a f*#k? If you want to bring up these issues and you aren't prepared for dissenting opinion, YOU are the moron.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:48pm PT
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Just jumping in here with a grammatical comment: are they born that way or are they raised that way, is not valid. It's an ablative absolute; they are what they are; but I don't condone butt-f%#%king. It's an old Army attitude, and not just a "don't ask-don't tell" Army one, either.
I saw "queers" get blanket-partied and beat to $hit by their straight comrades.
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:49pm PT
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sorry that would be my nuts on joxys chin..I did'nt realize this was a bad time...my bad..
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:56pm PT
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are you gonna tell me about your joints or not?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 29, 2010 - 09:57pm PT
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I wish Elton would have adopted me. and I don't feel sorry for his kids. and I think he and his partner will probably do a FABULOUS(said with a lisp) job of raising kids. On the other hand, I think that parenthood for allot of gay couples is not the answer and in many circumstances would make life more difficult for kids growing up trying to figure life out.
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