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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Then the hundred versions of that lightweight Chuny hammer.
Nah, not quite a hundred.
Less than ten?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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I seen teeth ground in a dozen different patterns, lots of teeth, few teeth, teeth near the handle, not near the handle, no teeth. Pointed pick, flat pick, god knows how many variations... I think some didn't even have the worthless carabiner groove just behind and under the head (presumably for pulling out pins and screws like a claw hammer?).
You said lightweight, and, posted up an alpine hammer. There were a number of versions of that, with, a pointy tip ('67 or so) then blade with teeth, notch behind the head (presumably for riding in a holster, methinks, added later), some with 4 teeth, up to a bunch the whole length.
The blades sans teeth were "crag" hammers.
Anyhoo, between all three of the major types of Chouinard hammers, what are we up to Marty, around 25 or more different ones?
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Brian - I have 35 Chouinard tools with hammer handles listed, and between you and I we have 26-28 of them. After the new year I plan on putting a guide together to show all of the differences. That means I am putting you to work in early 2011. Tell that guy to go back to the house and rip that counter out and retrieve that #1 Crack N Up!!! This is for historys sake!!!
Rokjox - the gear is spelled RoKJoX
Rock on! Marty
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Lee Bow
Trad climber
wet island
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whoops...
Looks like I owe th folks at BD a HUGE sorry/gosh darn!
Hang my head in shame
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Brian - I have 35 Chouinard tools with hammer handles listed, and between you and I we have 26-28 of them. After the new year I plan on putting a guide together to show all of the differences.
Ahh, you must be listing at least 3 or 4 versions of the Climaxe, then.
Speakin' of odd pieces of gear that never really caught on...
Back OT!
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groundup
Trad climber
hard sayin' not knowin'
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Forrest made a bunch of variations on the copperhead idea. Some where meant to beat on, some were meant as passive pro. Here's another example.
Back to the thread topic: I think we can all agree that it's a shame Forrest Mountaineering didn't catch on. The man was an innovator and free thinker. I wonder what he would have come up with if he were still making gear. Anybody near Salida Colorado want to ask him?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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#5 Bigbro
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Metolious Rope Hook. Useless and annoying.
Metolious Waldo without droppable leg loops. WTF?
Metolious easy aiders. I think I've only heard of 1 or 2 folks who use them, yet I see them in shop fairly frequently (well, when there were ships good enough to justify the drive).
BD funky tiny nuts. I think I've made 2 placements with mine, not why live in the closet of shame.
Wild Country Offset cams. Just too specializedI think.
4' rabbit runners to allow the best of both worlds, great idea, but they just don't grain traction ever.
Backlock Chouinard biners. Counter intuitive the couple times a partners have ended up on the rack.
DMM Revolver. One or two uses (stacking rope on big walls) they are apparently nice for, but I've yet to witness one in the wild.
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JBC
Trad climber
Tacoma, WA
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The Ed Leeper Friend of a Friend was a great tool for removing Friends. In one hand you could pressure all of the cam lobes, and in the other fiddle with the lobes with a nut tool to free the stuck cam.
Yeah! I paid for mine first trip out by recovering another teams walked cam, got my partner & I a pitcher of beer as I recall.
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JBC
Trad climber
Tacoma, WA
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BUTT SACKS! Did anybody ever manufacture butt sacks in quantity?
I don't know about the quantity, but Yates produced them for years - still have mine hanging in the garage.
Jim
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groundup
Trad climber
hard sayin' not knowin'
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Pika's Z pins were too wide and awkward. The toucan pitons were nice after they rounded the nose and teeth off.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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So a RoKJoX is a kind of nut...
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sure, but he may be on to something; anyone ever even touch an anti-piton?
18" Blue I-beams had a limited appeal, as well.
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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The earliest butt bags mfgd I know of was from Dolt. Robbins made them, Yates and many other companies. I believe that Chouinard/Black Diamond mass produced them. A5/North Face presently sells a nice big wall seat. On the big walls I still preferred to drag along a piece of wood as a seat instead of the butt bag. The butt bag took the pressure off of your waist but still squeezed the crap out of your legs and butt.
I am sure in the early days many climbers created their own homemade butt bags. Harnesses were not that good back then, more like two inch webbing tied around your waist. Climbers had to have some kind of waist squeeze relief system going on as they were hanging off of the big walls.
Brian - Yes I am showing four different Climbaxes. Between us we have three samples, but that 1972 version still has not surfaced.
Rock on! Marty
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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That was the whole deal with the "revolutionary" Whillians 'Sit harness' no more need to take a butt bag!. Alas, only better for eunuchs...
i had a forest(?) two point BB, then a Chouinard three point. then a Misty mtn 3 pt unit that came in it's own strap on stuff bag,
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perswig
climber
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My Gigi gets taken out periodically. I like it - no muss, no fuss.
Dale
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Gene
Social climber
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My Gigi gets taken out periodically. I like it - no muss, no fuss.
If you only knew what gigi means in Mandarin Chinese slang....
It's a useful piece of gear, but never really hit the big time. I sometimes put it on my rack due to all the tricks you can do with it.
g
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2010 - 07:29pm PT
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Feast your eyes on this baby.
Two views of a #1. A rare piece.
Ken
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perswig
climber
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^^
I'd trust that more if it were rigged with something other than kite twine with an overhand...
Edit: totally kidding, Ken - that kinda mood tonight. Sorry!
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