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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2010 - 01:54pm PT
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So you guys think these kids bought this clothing to only wear on May 5th? You think that's the only time they wear it? Not according to them.
If my camping chair is a patterned American flag (true), can I deploy it on May 5th? Or is that 'insensitive'?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Political correctness is alive and well and living right here.
John
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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So you guys think these kids bought this clothing to only wear on May 5th? You think that's the only time they wear it? Not according to them.
So four of them just decided to wear their American flag gear on the same day, and it just accidentally happened to be May 5th?
Oh wow, now I get it, my bad.....
Political correctness is alive and well and living right here.
And exactly the problem with that is?? It's a fact of the world that there are lots of different kinds of people on this little planet, and we need to give each other a little respect. Not only that, but America is getting more brown skinned by the day. If you can't wrap your head around that, then possibly your descendants have a long and sad future ahead of them.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I loved Cinco De Mayo when I was tending bar. It was Friday Night Money in the middle of the week!
Now I don't even care, except to avoid places like BevMo because of the crowds.
Cinco De Mayo didn't even get going until sometime in the mid '90s.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Is it OK that Mexican-Americans cheer the Mexican national soccer team and curse the US national soccer team?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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I don't think I've ever seem more insults thrown around before
Keep up the good work
I agree with the first sentence, Dr. F. However, I've always considered insults an admission that the poster lacks arguments.
John
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James Doty
Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
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"The Arizona law has an inherent problem in it. Law officers are supposed to make some determination that someone is likely illegal. They are also supposed to avoid using color or race to do it."
No they're not. It gives them another tool to use if someone doesn't have a valid ID And they suspect the person may be illegally here, after they have broken a law of some kind. As I said, I think it will mainly be used to deport people that are criminals and/or have gang affiliation.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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The thing isn't a drone or M-1 bluering, it's a friggin chair. And as long as the person sitting next to you has one of those "I'm with stupid" t-shirts with the arrow pointing at you, sure, you can deploy it.
Damn you Pate! I just shot coffee out of my nose....
"The Arizona law has an inherent problem in it. Law officers are supposed to make some determination that someone is likely illegal. They are also supposed to avoid using color or race to do it."
No they're not. It gives them another tool to use if someone doesn't have a valid ID And they suspect the person may be illegally here, after they have broken a law of some kind. As I said, I think it will mainly be used to deport people that are criminals and/or have gang affiliation.
Wrong thread James.....
Get with the program!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 7, 2010 - 02:06pm PT
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The thing isn't a drone or M-1 bluering, it's a friggin chair. And as long as the person sitting next to you has one of those "I'm with stupid" t-shirts with the arrow pointing at you, sure, you can deploy it.
Cool. I wouldn't want to be insensitive, ya know...
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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I'm still laughing!
Good for you for just lettin' it slide off Bluey.
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wbw
climber
'cross the great divide
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Wes, I agree with you that the guitar army that was characteristic of many southern rock groups was too much. But have you ever given Street Survivors a listen? *Three* guitars, each with a distinct sound and style,
and not playing on top of each other. Steve "A little bit of Bakersfield" Gaines was absolutely stunning on that album.
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James Doty
Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
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Read further upthread. This issue has been raised in this thread also.
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dktem
Trad climber
Temecula
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Survival is absolutely correct.
Whenever we see anyone displaying the American flag, we should assume the worst about their motives and get rid of that thing pronto.
I'm off to my town's war memorial right now. They fly that 'murican flag there 24/7. They don't care if its Cinco de Mayo, St. Patty's day or Kwanza.
Gotta go fix that ignorant display of hate...
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James Doty
Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
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But you are right. Checking out.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Survival is absolutely correct.
Whenever we see anyone displaying the American flag, we should assume the worst about their motives and get rid of that thing pronto.
I'm off to my town's war memorial right now. They fly that 'murican flag there 24/7. They don't care if its Cinco de Mayo, St. Patty's day or Kwanza.
Gotta go fix that ignorant display of hate...
I have a huge American flag that I proudly fly many days a year.
Sometimes at random and for no reason at all. But I don't go out to the local Cinco De Mayo parade and shove it in someones face either.
I'm glad that your town has a war memorial and that they fly a flag there.
Arlington National Cemetery, with hundreds of flags on display, is one of my favorite places.
But they allow all those immigrants to sport their religion on their cross or headstone all year round. Star of David, Hindu, American Indian, Buddhist, even those pesky Islamic Crescents....
Shouldn't they only be allowed to sport christian stuff on their headstone?
I served in a tough outfit Dktem, did you?
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Prezwoodz
climber
Anchorage
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I am sure you must be cool in person, but holy bat sh#t you sound like racist a holes.[/quote
Coz, can you explain to me why I'm a racist as#@&%e?
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Makes me wanna say, "F*#k you Mexicans". Where is your loyalty? To the US or to Mexico? Why are you so offended by students wearing USA flags on that day?
A couple of kids get sent home and it makes you want to throw down on the whole race. Any idea on the skin color of the principle that sent them home?
So, since they lost the territory in a war, they should get it back?
We even compensated them for the land WE WON WHEN WE WERE ATTACKED!!!
Thats a lot of "we" and "them" like its some kind of other species.
But I'm a racist, so I shouldn't comment.....
Sure, your just being sarcastic but your on the net man. Nobody can hear your voice, you have to expect someones going to believe you just said you were racist.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Hispanic Medal Of Honor Recipients.
The Medal of Honor was created during the American Civil War and is the highest military decoration presented by the United States government to a member of its armed forces. The recipient must have distinguished themselves at the risk of their own life above and beyond the call of duty in action against an enemy of the United States. Due to the nature of this medal, it is commonly presented posthumously.[1]
Forty-three men of Hispanic heritage have been awarded the Medal of Honor. Of the forty-three Medals of Honor presented to Hispanics, two were presented to members of the United States Navy, thirteen to members of the United States Marine Corps and twenty-eight to members of the United States Army. Twenty-five Medals of Honor were presented posthumously.[2][not in citation given]
The first recipient was Corporal Joseph H. De Castro of the Union Army for his actions at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania on July 3, 1863, during the American Civil War and the most recent recipient was Captain Humbert Roque Versace who was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor on July 8, 2002, by President George W. Bush.[citation needed] Corporal De Castro was a member of the Massachusetts Infantry, a militia that was not part of the "regular" army; however, Private David Bennes Barkley was a member of the regular army during World War I and has been recognized as the Army's first Hispanic Medal of Honor recipient.[3][unreliable source?][not in citation given] In 1864, Seaman John Ortega became the first Hispanic member of the U.S. Navy to receive the Medal of Honor and in 1900, Private France Silva became the first person of Hispanic descent in the U.S. Marine Corps to receive the medal.[4]
Ten recipients were born outside the United States mainland, one each in Chile and Spain, four in Mexico and four in Puerto Rico.
Seaman Philip Bazaar from Chile received the medal in January 1865 and Seaman John Ortega from Spain in December 1865. The first native Mexican recipient was Staff Sergeant Marcario Garcia and the first Puerto Rican was PFC Fernando Luis Garcia.[5] 1st Lt. Rudolph B. Davila, of Hispanic-Filipino descent, was the only person of Filipino ancestry to receive the medal for his actions in the war in Europe during World War II.[6] Private Joe P. Martinez was the first Hispanic-American recipient to be awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously for combat heroism on American soil during the same conflict.[7] 1st Lt. Baldomero Lopez, is the only Hispanic graduate of the United States Naval Academy recipient of the Medal of Honor[8]. Captain Humbert Roque Versace was the first recipient of the Medal of Honor to be given to an Army POW for his actions during captivity in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War.[9]
Edit: just a little addition:
During the Vietnam Conflict (1963-1973), approximately 80,000 Hispanic Americans served in the American military. Although Latinos only made up about 4.5% of the total U.S. population at that time, they incurred more than 19% of the casualties. In all, thirteen Hispanic soldiers, including three Puerto Ricans, won the Medal of Honor during this conflict.
Twenty thousand Hispanic servicemen and women participated in Operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm (1990-1991). In March 1994, 28,067 Latinos comprising just over 5% of the Army, served in the army. Writing in Hispanic Heritage Month 1996: Hispanics - Challenging the Future, Army Chaplain (Capt.) Carlos C. Huerta of the 1st Battalion, 79th Field Artillery stated that "Hispanics have always met the challenge of serving the nation with great fervor. In every war, in every battle, on every battlefield, Hispanics have put their lives on the line to protect freedom."
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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^ ^
That's interesting. A slight correction: people from Spain should not be considered to be "Hispanic."
Whether "Hispanic" is a good term to use in any context, I don't really know, but people from Spain are European and don't really have anything in common with what we think of as Hispanic or Chicano or Brown Power or whatever.
Edit--oh, maybe I screwed that up, sorry.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Latino generally refers to Latin American origin. Hispanic generally refers to a Spanish Speaking origin. Thus, do not call a Brazilian a Hispanic.
At least this is my understanding.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Hispanic
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Hispanic population of the United States, see Hispanic and Latino Americans. For other uses, see Hispanic (disambiguation).
Hispanic (Spanish: hispano, hispánico) is a term that originally denoted a relationship to the ancient Hispania (geographically coinciding with the Iberian Peninsula).[note 1] During the modern era, it took on a more limited meaning, relating to the contemporary nation of Spain.
Still more recently, primarily in the United States, the term has also (or alternatively) been used to denote the culture and people of countries formerly ruled by Spain, usually with a majority of the population speaking the Spanish language. These include Mexico, the majority of the Central and South American countries, and most of the Greater Antilles. The Philippines and other nations formerly pertaining to the Spanish East Indies are sometimes also included in this definition, as their culture has many Spanish or Latin American elements.
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