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Mighty Hiker
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Vancouver, B.C.
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Apr 30, 2010 - 02:17am PT
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Eric's photo poetically sums it up.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 30, 2010 - 03:00am PT
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Thanks TomCochrane. Good site.
http://www.earthfiles.com/
April 26, 2010 - Physicist Stephen Hawking Says Cosmic
Alien Life Probable and Perhaps Dangerous.
“To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like. ... If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans.” - Stephen Hawking, Ph.D., Theoretical Physicist and Mathematician
Stephen Hawking: alien life is out there, scientist warns
Stephen Hawking has suggested that aliens almost certainly exist but has warned humanity not to try to contact them.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7631252/Stephen-Hawking-alien-life-is-out-there-scientist-warns.html
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 30, 2010 - 03:05am PT
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Rokjox,
Good stuff. I didn't know about The X-37B Robotic Space Plane. How difficult would it be to design one for manned flight? Not very me thinks.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Apr 30, 2010 - 03:35am PT
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the limiting factor to Space travel is the fraility of the human body.
The human body is a marvel of biological engineering (Nature is just a marvel, the efficiency and natural design)
Let's face it, the human body works well here on Earth (relatively well, user's experience may vary), but it blows in Space. We need oxygen, we can't take more than several G forces before going "splat", our brains cannot handle sensory input at extremely high speed forces, and we need to pee.
So, if one was to travel across space: how so?
Just a speculation:
-Reduction in mass and g-force by cancelling out with negative mass and g-force(a theory, read up on Hermann Bondi's work)
-I think this can be achieved if one was to use inertia damping?
-Move space instead of moving the ship
-Change the state of vaccuum within the vaccuum state to travel faster than light, far fetched, but this is a gut feeling.
-Change the vibratory state of known states, realms, planes, to phase?
-Create a biological self-repairing machine that can handle space, and interdimensional shifts (increased robustness of the sensory system)
-Use said above entities as remote cameras or viewers without risking oneself's frailities
-Understand time does not work the exactly same in space as it does on Earth
-ok that was er fun.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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Apr 30, 2010 - 03:54am PT
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Using an unmanned craft prolly allows for
-reduction in pilot error
-faster & better response time
-ability to perform maneuvers that could kill a pilot
-Stay in space longer than a human
Usage wise? Who knows.
X-37B looks dated.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Apr 30, 2010 - 06:36am PT
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I MUST have one of those shoulder patches showing the Lunar Module and the Command/ Orbiter with presumably nylon (or perhaps Dyneema?)straps around the "Ark",lifting off.
Must I tell you.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland
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Apr 30, 2010 - 10:57am PT
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Maybe it's on MT Ararat.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 30, 2010 - 11:41am PT
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The X-37B is the logical successor to the apparently shuttered 'Aurora' program. Why endanger human lives plus go to the expense of providing potty facilities which we all know was a major oversight on the B-2 program?
From all I've read the X-37 launched successfully and is in orbit and that's all the Air Force is gonna tell us. It could be up there for up to 9 months!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 30, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
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Dingus,
Where'd you see that they lost telemetry? Are you sure Klimmer didn't 'jack it to go find his Ark?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Just watched last year's indie sci-fi movie Moon, and thought that was pretty cool.
No massive arks, but the FX are well enough done -- especially when you think about
what they had to show the main characters doing.
Director Duncan Jones says he wanted to make a "grown-up" space film, influenced by
the feel of earlier movies such as Silent Running, Outland, or the first Alien.
I thought he did that pretty well, and also caught some weird spirit of the old Twilight
Zone scripts.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2010 - 10:45am PT
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RetiredAFB and the other Moonwalker1966delta, don't they mention the launch of Apollo 19 and Apollo 20 were at night? And Moonwalker1966delta has posted supposed footage of the Apollo 19 (or Apollo 20?) launch, showing that it was indeed at night.
Officially, there was only one night launch in the Apollo program, and that was Apollo 17. HHhhhhhmmmmmm. Perhaps practice for the clandestine night launches to come?
See this wiki page and scroll to the bottom:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tVW0JOzNvEgJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V+Were+any+Apollo+rockets+launched+at+night%3F&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Here is Moonwalker166delta site with the launch of Apollo 19:
http://www.youtube.com/user/moonwalker1966delta#p/a/u/0/L4kSmezXPNo
All we have to do is match the official night launch footage of Apollo 17 to the night launch footage of Apollo 19 or 20 and see if they are one and the same.
Me thinks, maybe they are not exactly the same, which would then indicate the night launch footage that Moonwalker1966delta has posted is something other than Apollo 17 launching. Perhaps it is Apollo 19 (or maybe footage of Apollo 20). Under the cover of night and late at night, you could even launch now from Vandenberg and no one would know except for the noise. Remember, this was back in the mid 70's. Easy to get away with a lot of stuff with no one looking.
Also the footage of the Astronauts getting into the capsule near the launch time. You do see faces and no insignia on the astronauts. Seems someone could press NASA to exactly identify everyone in the image upon boarding and who exactly are all those technicians? When exactly did this event take place? We want the names and identies of all people in the footage. And we want the exact time and location of where this took place.
It is time for some FOIA requests.
Edit:
Also FOIA requests for all the hi-resolution imagery that no doubt the LRO has now taken of the site and region near 18.5 degrees South, and 117.5 degrees East on the Moon. All of it and from different swaths so that the entire site can be viewed in Hi-Res 3D.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Even if you had all the evidence to the contrary, you would find some loop whole to justify the conspiracy.
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Mike Bolte
Trad climber
Planet Earth
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clandestine night launches? Do you reckon they used some kind of cloaking device Klimmer?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Klimmer is 7 kinds of awesome.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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You're basing your arguments on grainy youtube videos from sources we know nothing about. I've never heard these names before and Im sure there is more to their background than they let on. They make claims that are so patently unprovable that it brings into questions their objectivity. But thats what allows you to continue making claims like Arcs on the Moon, because none of these hypotheses can be disproven.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Just what is it that lays sideways on the ground, yet possesses enough structural integrity to appear to have clearance under it and is about an eighth mile long of free hanging tubular material? A giant fossilized alien turd?
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