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bluering
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Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 02:00pm PT
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Yeah, you guys are right. Nothing to see here, move along....
In fact, we should actually EASE security and allow MORE people into the country from all over so we can all hold hands and smoke some pot together.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 28, 2009 - 02:02pm PT
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That's what your boy Mark Steyn is proposing as we speak (type), Bluering:-)
edit: AND profiling muslims only!
Conservatism: CHANGE WE CAN RETREAT IN!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 02:18pm PT
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Mojede, it ain't Irish Catholic grandmothers we have a current problem with. If you fail to see a trend or 'profile', you're being naive and will get more people killed. Do you realize the only reason 300 innocent holiday travelers are alive today is because, miraculously, the detonator failed to work???
Of course, Karl would say WE are already doing a good job killing innocents around the world, but whatever...
EDIT: Good call too, I like Mark Steyn!
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 28, 2009 - 02:28pm PT
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My "Steyn" comment was sarcasm, based in truth.
What about the 100s of MILLIONS of muslim travelers that act just like your "Irish Catholic grandmothers" knitting on the plane and being peaceful?
Yeah, they don't count because they're not the ones Conservatives have issue with;
Oh the irony of hypocrisy--y'all love to hate groups, don'cha? And yet you praise the individual (as long as "they" are "like" you.
edit: Mark Steyn is an Ex-pat transplant that has no original thoughts but to spout old, out-dated rhetoric gathered from a washed-out, has-been broadcasting from another CENTURY:-)
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Binks
Social climber
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Dec 28, 2009 - 02:32pm PT
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Terrorism blah blah blah... so who wants our money now?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 28, 2009 - 02:34pm PT
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You have to admit the terrorists of this century have overwhelmingly fit a consistent demographic profile.
Contempt for diversity is, well, contemptable.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 02:43pm PT
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What about the 100s of MILLIONS of muslim travelers that act just like your "Irish Catholic grandmothers" knitting on the plane and being peaceful?
Yeah, they don't count because they're not the ones Conservatives have issue with;
Oh the irony of hypocrisy--y'all love to hate groups, don'cha? And yet you praise the individual (as long as "they" are "like" you.
Mojede, I have plenty of liberal friends, some of whom are Muslim and don't 'share my beliefs'. You assume too much I think. To confuse conservatism with Islamic extremism is kinda foolish. I don't care if pacifist libs travel. I just want the extremist Muslims weeded out effectively before they get here. They have no place in our society...they hate us, including you!
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 28, 2009 - 03:31pm PT
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One can only be hated when one has hate in his heart.
Go beyond the bounds, Bluey--I sense you have love in your heart, now allow it to reach your brain.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 28, 2009 - 03:55pm PT
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Check out my last post Bluering. You think they actually WANT to catch all the terrorists coming to the country. THEY DONT!
They are happy to have an incident once in awhile to keep the war fires burning.
That's why they ignored the warnings about this guy. They search old white ladies to remind them to be afraid.
That's why Saudi Terrorist (or friends of the bin ladens or Royal Family) get a special pass. They are working with us to keep the war machine going
PEace
Karl
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 03:59pm PT
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One can only be hated when one has hate in his heart.
That is a fundamental of most religions but I ask you this - what do you do when one who hates you wants to kill himself along with your whole family???
Turn the other cheek? Subdue him and arrest him? Shoot him?
It's a noble thought you have there, Mojede, but it's just a platitude. It don't work that way in reality.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:00pm PT
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That's why they ignored the warnings about this guy.
Karl, that's rivaling much of blue's spew for innanity and blatant ridiculousness. Either that or you just lack a fundamental understanding of systems and complexity. And further, it smacks of a conspiratorial, big-brother 'they' which doesn't exist and is equally ridiculous - basic incompetence should never be given more creedence than it's due.
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Binks
Social climber
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:02pm PT
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why is it that these "attacks" always coincide with some excuse to raid our wallets? why is it that the wars will never end and never accomplish anything except for people profiting from them? why is it that i have to pay for what i don't believe in at all? how long do people want to keep lying about it?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 04:05pm PT
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Karl, yeah, another false flag op, right? Was Obama and Napolitano in on it this time? That big Zionist, Obama?
What about the Houthis in Yemen who are training these people? Are they in on the military-industrial complex?
Pakistan? The suicide bombings everyday for the past 3 weeks? Are they in on it?
The Philippines and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, are they too?
How about Southern Thailand and the separatists (Islamists) there?
It doesn't add up, dude.
EDIT:
why is it that these "attacks" always coincide with some excuse to raid our wallets?
Binks, are you talking about Healthcare Reform??? Or Cap/Trade?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:10pm PT
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Check out my last post Bluering. You think they actually WANT to catch all the terrorists coming to the country. THEY DONT!
They are happy to have an incident once in awhile to keep the war fires burning.
That's why they ignored the warnings about this guy. They search old white ladies to remind them to be afraid.
I knda have to agree with Karl on this. You shoulda seen what those TSA 'tards put my 83 year old mother-in-law through at JFK! Strip searched her on a freezing day! You just can't be too carefull with old Presbyterians!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 04:14pm PT
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You shoulda seen what those TSA 'tards put my 83 year old mother-in-law through at JFK! Strip searched her on a freezing day! You just can't be too carefull with old Presbyterians!
No that's political correctness gone awry....we have to be equally abusive of old white ladies as we are of young Muslims from Nigeria (with no passport).
Diversity!!!!
(what's disturbing is that Grandma probably got felt up by security and they didn't dare offend the young Nigerian Muslim)
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 04:18pm PT
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we should put them all on a terrorist watch list, they are the terrorists
Didn't Janet Napolitano already do that?
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:23pm PT
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"That is a fundamental of most religions but I ask you this - what do you do when one who hates you wants to kill himself along with your whole family???
Turn the other cheek? Subdue him and arrest him? Shoot him?"--Bluering
NO ONE wants to kill me or my family because the love in me prevents them from doing so.
To answer your questions, your learnings on Christ MUST suffice, or else they are a sham. Open your heart as YOUR savior would do and learn what he truly teaches.
REALITY is what your conscious lives when the ego rules...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:29pm PT
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No that's political correctness gone awry....we have to be equally abusive of old white ladies as we are of young Muslims from Nigeria (with no passport).
He had a passport with a visa valid until Jun 2010 - do you just make this sh#t up?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 28, 2009 - 04:30pm PT
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NO ONE wants to kill me or my family because the love in me prevents them from doing so
So if you and your loved ones were on that flight, you would have been spared? Or was the flight spared because God intervened?
They just wanna kill Westerners and non-Muslims. Don't you get that? We are decadent and infidels!
Healy:
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_says_at_l.html
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 28, 2009 - 04:31pm PT
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Mojede - there's no reasoning with hateful christians anymore than with hateful muslims.
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