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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 10, 2009 - 08:27pm PT
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Dirtineye went back to the hospital today because of blockage in his bile duct which is causing him great pain.
Curt has been inactive on ST forum for over a month. Sunday, he told me the pain was so intense he had lost interest in posting here. His pain specialist has him taking maximum doses of oxycodone, but he's still quite miserable. I haven't seen other posts recently concerning Curt's condition but I'm sure his other friends, here, would be interested in knowing his situation and in sending him their best wishes.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Feb 10, 2009 - 08:33pm PT
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Best wishes to Dirtineye. I've seen a couple of friends go through what he's suffering, and he's got my sympathy.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Feb 10, 2009 - 08:35pm PT
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Chin up, Curt!
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RRK
Trad climber
Talladega, Al
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Feb 10, 2009 - 08:41pm PT
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thanks Jennie - I was out on a climbing weekend to Twall this past weekend and haven't been keeping up like I should, but Curt did call my wife while I was gone and talked to her for a couple of hours. I'll go probe her for some info and probably call his mom tomorrow. If anybody hears anything in the meantime please post up
RRK
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 10, 2009 - 08:45pm PT
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Shoot, you'd think a little less bile would do the guy a world of good.
Good luck, dirt!
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Feb 10, 2009 - 09:25pm PT
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keep your ducts up!
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Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
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Feb 10, 2009 - 09:34pm PT
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Thanks Jennie, I've been wondering how Curt was doing, hoping the best. Let's hope this is only an unexpected tie-in, (albeit painful) on the route of recovery.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 10, 2009 - 09:45pm PT
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Ahh, Jennie....Thanks for this Thread. Let Curt know I think of him often and pray for him. Working in Home Health Care for 20 years and being in peoples homes I have seen so much pain and suffering. The human experience is sometimes so difficult. My own hub had a terrible time near the end.
Which makes me think of Heaven. I believe Heaven is God's gift to us. We are Pilgrims here for a short time and then an incredible forever.... no pain, suffering or tears.
The most beautiful place one can't EVEN imagine.....Heaven is like El Cap and Lynne being able to climb it. Heaven is Loved ones we never knew all coming together in eternal joyfilled celebration. Heaven is Creativity of things that we have only dreamed about but never thought possible. Heaven is Music, delight, love......and Peace and Joy Beyond Comprehension.
Praying these wonderful things for our special friend, dirtineye. Smiles, Lynne
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Feb 10, 2009 - 09:52pm PT
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Best Wishes to Dirt.
No one should be in pain in this day and age. Methadone can sometimes help with control, so I've herd.
-e
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:07pm PT
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Methadone can be quite dangerous due to its half life. Overdose leading to death became so prevelant in the past couple years the FDA put out a black box warning to all agencies using this drug.
IV Dilaudid or Morphine administered by a pain control pump allows pain relief and freedom to live your daily life. The PCP is carried with you in a small fanny pack...no more being attached to an IV pole.....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
Monrovia, CA
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:18pm PT
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Get well Dirt! I will be thinkin' of ya!
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2009 - 10:36pm PT
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Does Methadone half-life vary with one's physical size, sex, age or health ?
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
dangling off a wind turbine in a town near you
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:46pm PT
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Keep your pecker up lad.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 10, 2009 - 10:55pm PT
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Other Dirt, buddy, I'm pulling for you!
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:12pm PT
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Jenny, one large effect on the amount of methadone needed is the person's previous exposure to opiates. A dose that would kill an opiate naive person, will hardly touch some one who has been on sizable oxycontin doses or other narcotic painkillers.
Very good hospice docs I have worked with swear by the ability of methadone to kill almost any pain.
-e
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Fletcher
Trad climber
the campfire just a ways past Chris' Taco stand
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:12pm PT
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Sending you blessings and and good vibes, dirtineye!
Fletch
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2009 - 11:12pm PT
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Thanks, Lois, I appreciate the information. I was curious if Methadone might have hastened my father's death a few years ago. Probanly not, but I wondered about it staying in his system longer as Lynne suggested it can.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Idaho Falls
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2009 - 11:16pm PT
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Thanks, Ezra. My dad had been taking methadone but they switched to morphine the last day. Just wondering about methadone still being in his system.
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Ezra
Social climber
WA, NC, Idaho Falls
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:25pm PT
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Jennie,
Methadone has a long half-life. It is impossible to say in retrospect what effects it might have had or not.
-e
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Feb 10, 2009 - 11:42pm PT
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Jennie, if you want information I can fax or email it to you. Just give me some time, we are short staffed due to our great economy.
One needs a person experienced in converting the existence of drugs in your system, what you are currently on and their half life....then coverting to the new drug...making sure that the drug you are currently on will convert out as the new drug begins to take effect.....for example the conversion from being on morphine and then converting the patient to methadone or visa versa.
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