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Hardman Knott
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Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 18, 2008 - 07:00pm PT
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If this isn't by FAR the longest post in SuperTopo history, I don't know what is...
Enjoy! DMT was right - I got Oh Cee Dee, and I got it REAL BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Yes - I've used the word "stalking" myself. I've had people follow me around in various
threads over the years, and post heckling, and sometimes nasty and downright creepy
stuff directed at me. It's much worse when you don't know who it is. Recently, a person
who has used the pseudonyms toulumne*rainbow / Standing Strong / Pour Some Sugar On Me / t*r
(and those are just the ones I know about), posted about "creepy older men" who were "stalking" her.
As to be expected, people joined the dog-pile, apparently woefully ignorant of some simple facts.
The point of this novelette is to offer perspective, and call bullshít on some of the bullshít directed at me.
This user has been here for several years, and there as been very little conversation
between us on this forum, despite this user's over 15,000 total posts, many of them
nonsensical, self-serving, diary like posts. But hey, looking at many of my posts, I'm
probably knott anyone to judge, so it's all good - we can all coexist here. Namasté.
This is an accounting of all correspondence between me and this user going back to Jan 1.
January 4th:
Anastasia posts a TR about climbing in J-Tree. This user asks Dwain to edit her name from his post.
Here's my response:
You just posted your phone number to a public forum (YIKES!!),
yet you're worried about someone mentioning your first name?????
SS: it's just a cellphone. not like it's my home phone. i'm not worried about it. thanks for your concern.
HK: Are you kidding???
I sure hope knott!
SS: climbers are generally pretty cool.
HK: Sorry young lady, but this is the internet in the year 2008.
You might want to consider being less blasé about your privacy...
(read the thread to see the whole conversation and posts from others)
To summarize, I posted some helpful comments about being safe on
the internet. How ironic that this is my first comment to her in 2008!
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January 27:
I started a thread entitled 25+ posts on the first day = BOOORRRRRIING! in response
to this user, making a flurry of posts under a new name, mainly pics of a dust-buster
without comment, or the same comment repeated over and over. It was cute for the
first day or two. At first I had no idea who it was and heckled this user like I would any other:
Here's the post history of the user-name Pour Some Sugar On Me:
http://www.supertopo.com/forumpostsearch.html?id=7826931
Hardman Knott's total post count for January: 148
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February 3rd:
The user posting as Standing Strong started a thread entitled: DANG! look at that BOOTY!
which was later deleted. I'm posting it here for CONTEXT. Note that I didn't post in
this ridiculous thread, but the user name PSSOM certainly did, with this comment:
"u and ur booty r fantastic, T*R!!!
i can't believe someone as beautiful as you is so nice :)"
(gotta love it when somebody posts complimentary comments to themselves, but again,
who am I to judge? It's all good until people start calling names like "stalker" or "creepy old man")...
Hardman Knott's total post count for February: 130; ZERO posts directed at this user.
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Hardman Knott's total post count for March: 42; ZERO posts directed at this user.
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April 3rd:
In the thread entitled: Which route have you repeated the most?
-this user wrote:
SS: "i've followed bear's reach like 834957289357 times.
lover's leap is ghey (not that there's anything wrong w/that) "
HK: (with Bluering quote at top)
SS might think it's ghey, but I'm gonna come out of the closet and say I love some Leap
time every once in a while. I've yet to solo anything on the East wall 'ceptin Pop Bottle,
but even so I'd guess I've done all those routes maybe 10 times each.
HK: When I saw SS's post, I wanted to reply with that classic Ouch! cartoon of the flashlight
shining through her head. In fact, a free 6-pack of Green Labels to whoever finds it first...
(click link above for full comment)
{SS hotlinks the flashlight cartoon with this comment:
"done. thanks for the six pack of green labels, hardman knott."
HK: You got it, young lady. Thanks for being a good sport...
SS: thanks for the beer, dood.
April 14
I started a thread entitled: I got yer apology right here, pal...
SS: screw ur apology
can i have a new username?
:)
luv,
T*R
(I ignored this comment, since I had already told her several times that I couldn't do
anything about her user-name, and that she should call Chris or create a new one)
April 17:
Ouch (posting under one of his 3 pseudonyms), authored the following thread:
Tuolene Brainblow
(please read the short thread - it speaks for itself. I made ZERO comments about the lady).
Hardman Knott's total post count for April: 132; total of 2 friendly comments made toward user.
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Hardman Knott's total post count for May: 85; ZERO posts directed at this user.
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Hardman Knott's total post count for June: 11; ZERO posts directed at this user.
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July 18:
In the thread: cave rock partners?
-the user wrote:
noah if you pulled that where i am right now, you would get your tires slashed and the broken glass would be from your car's broken windows. and you would be lucky if that's ALL that happened to you.
just sayin'
HK: If *Noah* pulled what?
(no response)
July 24:
Jody started a thread (since deleted) entitled: Why?
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=640937&msg=641058
The user made the third post, and it was knott so sweet - but who am I to judge?
why do people bring up an issue after they've already settled it again? you said you forgave him and then had a tantrum in the thread. now you're having another one. get over it and grow up. you're on vacation. is this really what you want to do with your time off?
or are you going to piss everyone off, and then post a pretty picture to make up for it? or bring up your dad and all the BigNames you know?
you do this over and over and over again.
In response, Jody posted a pic (which made me LMAO), and here was the user's response:
sweet nice pic jody. now all you need to do is drop some names and you'll be kosher.
-and then 5 minutes later:
" Edit; Nice. Is that Croft on that buttress? "
hahahahaha! killing 2 birds w/1 stone
To see my response, Click Here to go directly to my post.
Was this any more mean-spirited than what she wrote?
Was this "picking on" her? Was this "stalking" her? Was this me being "creepy?
Do tell...
(ironically, that thread was deleted because of some real, creepy stalking by a demented,
mentally unstable kook who has been banned more times from SuperTopo than any other user)
Hardman Knott's total post count for July: 89; ONE post directed at this user
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August 6th: Bluering posts a thread entitled Communists
The user responded with by far the most classic post ever seen on this forum:
When I saw this post I laughed so hard I almost sprayed the monitor with beer and
pissed my pants at the same time. I'm sorry, but I still LMAO when I see that post!
Here's the full exchange - it's well worth recounting here:
SS:11:18 pm: you've started two stupid off topic threads today
quit it
Bluering: 11:32 pm Hey SS, go pleasure yourself and quit trying to tell me what to do.
I had the day off today and have some time on my hands to point out the fact that Commies suck. MMkaay?
SS: 11:36 pm you're not the boss of me
SS: 11:37 pm no one's the boss of me
HK: 11:53 pm SS - you twit, you've started more stupid threads than just about anyone I can think of off the top of my head,
and your new "angry" persona hardly makes up for that fact.
Plus, your multipal (unanswered) posts minutes apart to the same thread are pretty lame.
Bottom line: Commies suck, and that's the truth.
No amount of America bashing (yawn) can change this simpile fact.
SS: 11:55 pm: i'm not angry you are
SS: 11:55 pm AND you backed down on a bet
HK: 12:01 am OMG! LOL!
Fish: 12:02 am LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
SS: 12:05 am obviously you 3 are having some kind of slumber party / circle jerk tonight
HK: 12:07 am It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!
SS 12:09 am when are you giving me the six pack of green labels you promised? if you want, you can change my username to t*r instead. that cuts out all the logistics
HK 12:12 am Only if to promise to miss-spell it again...
SS 12:13 am how do u misspell t*r
HK 12:16 am You miss-spelled Toulumne in your user name,, remember?
SS: 12:17 am You miss-spelled Toulumne, remember?
hahaha!!! now YOU misspelled tuolumne
HK 12:21 am Blame it on Toluene*Brainblow...
SS 12:27 am i know who it was. but my lips are sealed! forever.
sooo... trade beer for change username?
HK 12:32 am You have tthe 6 pack of Green Labels coming, for services rendered.
Just register a new account and be done with it (like everyone else).
HK 12:38 am Note to self: Do knott post from the iPhone when drinking a wee bit more than prudent.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
SS 12:38 am Just register a new account and be done with it (like everyone else).
no too much of a hassle. i wanna own my own posting history.
HK 12:48 am Hmmm - you might want to rethink that...
Nature 7:56 am I gotta point out that this is one of the finest thread highjacks I've seen in a long long time.
Well done folks! I love it.
August 10th:
In Chris Mac's build respect for your user name thread, this user wrote:
SS: 2:00 pm hey chris,
speaking of usernames, could you please change mine to t*r? that way i can keep my own posting history. i DON'T want to set up a new account but standing strong is the dumbest username ever plus it's like three years old. i've been trying to trade the beer i won from hardman knott in exchange for hardman knott's changing my username, but no dice. if you change it, he can just give the six pack of green labels to YOU!
cheers
t*r
I made this post in response, with the famous flashlight-through-the-head pic:
HK: 3:30pm Hey Standing Strong - ever heard of private e-mail?
As I suggested before, e-mail Chris and ask him. Better yet, pick a name and stick it.
BTW, thanks again for providing the image above. You do have the 6-pack of green labels
coming, and Russ has a beer I owe him from several months ago, and two for Nature from
several years ago. Incidentally, Nature is still holding $75.00 for last year's Sushi Fest,
as I told him to put towards a possible future event. So please try to relax in the meantime...
SS: 6:45 pm why would i send chris mac an email when he's reading this anyways?
i'm not pushing for you to give me the green labels asap. i never said that! i was just hoping i could use the beer to barter with... i don't like most beer too much
anyways 3 years is plenty long enough to stick with a username
Happi: 6:54 pm SS - Chris isn't necessarily reading the thread. He made a post, and if it's like in the past, that's about all the involvement he takes. He's not like us poor internet-addled addicts.
But what is the big deal about this owning your history? Everyone knows your old user name is you. If we can figure it out, you should be able to!
SS 6:57 pm i don't know i just want my posts with me who currs
and i really don't wanna have to do another email address and stuff
dumb
HK:
(sorry, that was like, totally impossible to resist)
SS 1:03 pm don't like it? don't read it tough guy
HK 1:07 pm My bad.
Carry on...
(the stage is yours)
SS 1:14 pm omg chris!!! the ignore button is finally working
thnx!
HK 1:31 pm Like, OMG!!!!!!!!1111
HK 2:01 pm Pwn3d!!!!111
August 11th: The use starts a thread entitled DailyOM! which to me bordered on spam (but who am I to judge)
Since OM-ing SERIOUSLY annoys the hell out of me, I wrote:
There's nothing more annoying than when people start loudly OM-ing in the hot-spring.
It like, totally dominates the space, when all I want to do is have a nice, quiet soak.
It makes me cringe.
L: 2:15 pm t*r...you are such a shining star!
And I hate to say this, but I think Dave has a total crush on you.
Yes, it's true. I've noticed every time you post something, there he is, jumping on your post...trying to hide his feelings with acerbic wit and testy innuendo. And the way he keeps giving you the hint about private emails, well, you can tell he's got it bad.
Now, Hardman seems like a really nice fella, but you might want to be careful about having any sort of relationship with him...your reputation as a wild-woman heartbreaker is pretty well known. And he seems soooo smitten...like a snappy little puppy that keeps going for your ankles but really wants your lap...
You know, the more I think about it, you just might be better off to keep it a friendship. I'd hate to see him hurt by your inability to date just one guy at a time. Maybe in 4 or 5 years...but not now.
Go easy on him, t*r...he's obviously very vulnerable right now.
HK 2:24 pm L - WTF?
Let me reiterate: The sound of OM-ing makes me want to hurl...
What part of cringe do you knott understand?
L: 2:28 pm Hahahahahaha!
Sorry Dave, just checking to see if you were out there!
>>>>^..^>>>>>
Are you going to FaceLift?
SS: 4:22 pm
"your inability to date just one guy at a time. Maybe in 4 or 5 years...but not now."
i thought we agreed to not discuss that on supertopo!
SS 4:23 pm btw, dave is a little more "new wave" than we all thought:
August 13: I clicked on a ten-day old thread for the first time (not knowing it was a trip-report)
entitled T*R tr TR - and posted this comment:
Aug 13 HK 11:55 am Fun title - great pics!
August 19: Dirtineye started a thread entitled [url="http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=656886
"]It has come to my attention...[/url]
Here are some key posts - let's start with the OP:
Dirt: 1:29 pm ... in the climbing relationships thread, that a few other people (besides me) on this site are a little, 'perturbed', shall we say, with t*r aka SS.
Well it's one thing for me to take great exception to perceived twitishness, after all, I am a card carrying curmudgeon, and I feel grumpy pretty all the time thanks to drugs, chemo, illness, etc.
But when the rest of you do it, hmmm.
Besides, MAYBE t*r is not a lost cause. Maybe she's NOT The female equivalent of Ramjet. Maybe she'll see the light one day. I'll bet she's never kicked an innocent little bunny rabbit. She's probably good deep down in side.
And she COULD fix your car.
Maybe we should all lighten up on lil t*r.
Well, all except for me.
DMT 1:53 pm t*r stalkers are way homo.
WAY.... HOMO.
DMT
Aug 19 HK 10:13 am Personally, I think it's insane that a young woman would post "He's hot - I'd do him"
on the internet in the year 2008. Seriously, that's knott especially smart, IMKSHO.
There are a lot of creeps out there. Time to wake up!
DMT 10:18 am"Personally, I think it's insane that a young woman would post "He's hot - I'd do him"
on the internet in the year 2008. Seriously, that's knott especially smart, IMKSHO. "
Yeah but you're an old fuddy duddy.
I'm sure t*r can take care of herself.
Those children of the I-Age are a different breed, lol.
DMT
HK: 10:20 am Back when I was her age, we had to walk to school through 2 feet of snow, uphill both ways...
Seriously, if I had a daughter, she would knott be allowed to date until she was 30.
t*r 10:24 am if a young woman looks a pic of a climbing star, comments, "i'd do him" and then some man somewhere interpreted her comment to mean she'd do anyone, anytime, the problem is not with the young lady, but with that man.
HK 10:28 am Uh, hello??
That's my point!
t*r 10:31 am sorry, i usually just skim over your posts.
you know what else is really funny? when people look at your username and go, "hardman? NOT!!!" even tho you intended that pun when you created your username.
HK 10:45 am The day I click on a MySpace or FaceBook link will be the day I...
t*r 10:47 am yea right liar
HK 10:48 am OMG!!!!!!!!!!111
ur right. u really got me there!
LOL!!!!!!1111
Aug 19 11:04 am A self-absorbed, loquascious ditz wrote:
sorry, i usually just skim over your posts.
LOL!!!
Seriously, that's about the funniest thing I've ever read on this forum...
Locker 11:06 am Hell...
I was unaware that YOU were even on this FORUM...
;-)
HK 11:08 am I do knott spew forth every time I get the urge...
August 19: The user started a thread entitled unsafe to check laptop? (train question)
Seriously, there's really nothing for me to say; the conversation really speaks for itself.
Now wonder the user deleted it! Read it with an open mind and get back to me,
and tell me how harmful, stalkish™, or creepy this post is IN ITS CONTEXT:
HK 10:39 pm OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
August 19: The user then started another thread along the same lines,
entitled: anybody know the answer to this question regarding travel. Russ' post was hilarious:
Some really good ideas are here:
Packing Laptops for Travel
Loomis 11:30 pm Standing Wrong™ - I have an Excellent Solution™:
Please stop giving us running beta of your thought process.
I am recovering from surgery and it is raising my blood pressure.
Thanks for your cooperation, Scott.
Finally, 12 hours later (the next morning), I posted my first comment to the thread
(it was on the front page because DMT bumped it at 7:59 am - which made me think of it again:
HK 10:27 am Was this perplexing problem ever solved?
The suspense is killing me!
HK 2:02 pm Bump (so we can sleep at night without wondering how this issue was resolved)...
Flashlight 2:34 pm Thanks for bumping this thread HK, you have now cause a recurrence of Scott's headache.
HK 2:36 pm Sorry, but after 44 posts spanning two separate threads (prior to me posting),
my interest was thoroughly piqued, and I was captivated. And now I can't stop
wondering how the mind-bending, public-discussion-worthy puzzle was solved...
Loomis 2:55 pm Inquiring minds want to know.
Flashlight 3:02 pm
Flashlight
climber
From:
Re: Communists (OT) Aug 6, 2008, 11:18pm PT
Author:
Standing Strong
Trad climber
From: sunlight on the surf
you've started two stupid off topic threads today
quit it
HK 3:11 pm http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=649636&msg=649663#msg649663
It's much better in context, plus the responses were hilarious!
DMT 3:25 pm
I'm curious, how does it feel, stalking a 19-year old woman? Compared to roughster for example, does this satisfy your OCD more, or less?
DMT
Flashlight 3:30 pm If she doesn't like the medicine she can quit dishing it out Dr. Schitt. A while back she started posting on my threads and ripping me a new one every chance she got. If she is going to do that, she should learn to take the heat in return.
You need to research the term "stalking" before you start using it.
HK 3:31 pm Ask the 24 year old––knott 19––how it felt "stalking" Bluering in his thread (linked 3 posts up)...
Dirtineye 7:16 pm I heard she was 28.
But since I'm trying to be nice to her, I think I'll start thread stalking Dingbat Milkturd.
He's a big an idiot as SS can be a lot of the time, and he has more experience at it. Plus, he REALLY should know better by now.
PS SS, don't check your laptop!! And if you are going to be on Amtrack for two days, be sure to take a lot of MONEY. Worst mistake I ever made was thinking I could write a check on the train, LOL. Hell, they took a check for the ticket. But not for the food. DOH. MAN were they rude about it too. Last time I ever rode the train. Over 33 years ago and I'm still pissed at the piss poor service from Amtrack.
t*r 10:13 pm i'm not 24, or 28. whomever is talkin' sh#t needs to get their facts straight. hahahaha
people talk about lots of the same stuff i talk about
but because i'm younger
because i'm a female
because i'm liberal
i get more.
who currs? not going away. nice try tho.
hope you had fun talkin' shee while i was in the high mountains :)
t*r 10:15 pm p.s. checks are obsolete these days.
t*r 10:15 pm p.p.s. if you PLAN AHEAD and pack healthy food, you don't need any money.
DMT 8:08 am (once again bumping the thread back to the front page)
DMT 8:09 am Ask the 24 year old––knott 19––how it felt "stalking" Bluering in his thread (linked 3 posts up)... "
Ah blame the victim!
Nice one. Very much in keeping...
DMT
Flashlight 8:06 am Dr. Schitt's five step process to being a "victim".
1. Rip on people who have never said a critical word to you.
2. Do it again, again, again, and again.
3. Only speak critically of an individual after like-minded folks have clearly outnumbered the individual being criticized(takes a lot of initiative and bravery to do that).
4. Cry "victim" when you get a little bit of return fire.
5. Get Dr. Schitt to defend you and carry on the "victim" mantra so you can take the mythical(in your world) "high road".
DMT 8:40 am I'll take that as a 'yes.'
Carry on. Two grown men picking on a woman... maybe you should do a Pay For View!
DMT
Flashlight 8:42 am Two? I thought it was three?
HK 9:12 am For the love of God, how was the !@#$%^& laptop packed????????????????
DMT 1:11 pm (afternoon bump to the top):
"Two? I thought it was three? "
Hehe, 2 and a half at BEST.
DMT
HK 1:23 pm -spoken by a true expert...
August 20 1:30 am: I posted a joke thread entitled am best way to pack a bowl?
(definitely a fun poke at the user)
August 25: In the thread entitled settle up on those beers you all owe each other?
HK: 1:42 pm I owe each and every one of you a beer for keeping me entertained all these years...
t*r 3:10 hardmann knott owes me a six pack of sierra neva-duhs!!!
gimme it b*tch!!!
August 25: In the thread entitled Yosemite Facelift: Sushi Info,
I was frankly startled (after LMAO) at this gem:
t*r 6:05 pm i just figured i would bring my sleeping bag and crash in random
whoever's tent. we're not going to bed 'til like late anyways and getting up a few
hours later, so no big deal, yea?
TeamWayHomo!
t*r 9:28 pm i don't want to sleep with people i don't know i'd rather sleep with
the boys i do know. that sounds bad. what it sounds like is not what i mean.
HK Aug 26 1:54 pm (quoted above text) LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
You're more than welcome to share mine, as long as you don't snore..
Fattrad 12:59 pm I snore.
HK 1:00 pm That settles it then.
Fattrad is KNOTT sleeping in my tent...
Ouch! 2:12 pm You should invite Crowley to sleep in your tent.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
HK 3:47 pm You know, come to think of it, how about if YOU slept in Crowley's tent?
After all, no one has started anywhere near as many threads about him as you (knott to
mention the teen-aged Rimjob). Might as well work out your obsession(s) face to face...
Ouch! 4:06 pm ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
August 27: On August 3rd, the user (using the name Standing Strong) started this thread:
u can't look at someone & know their whole racial/ethnic..,
-and wrote this:
you cannot look at someone and know their whole racial/ethnic background.
thanks.
The conversation lasted a day and a half and then disappeared.
On August 27th, after the thread had been dormant for 17 days the user bumped
the thread––this time posting as t*r––with this comment:
t*r 2:17 pm
oh,
bump.
Dirt responded to the 17 day bump - 2:55 pm
OK, so what sort of serious discussion were you hoping for when you made a totally obvious blanket statement that only a moron would disagree with?
BTW, thinking you can truly know much of anything, that is not totally superficial, about a person with a glance, is just wrong.
I've told the story several times here about the friend of my first wife and mine-- a young, intelligent, good looking, very nice college kid that EVERYONE liked, who happened to be a FVCKING COLD BLOODED MURDERER, for example.
HK 3:20 pm Hey Dirt - quit picking on––or dare I say, STALKING––the poor, oh-so young, oh-so defenseless little sweetheart...
Ditrtineye 3:24 pm HK, um, NAH.
BUT, I will stop posting in her inane threads that they are inane when she stops posting them, really I will. Promise.
SOMEONE has to take responsibility NOW to make sure that t*r does not grow up to be like Juan de Fuca. That would be a tragedy.
Besides, aren't you stealing Dingbat Milkturd's thunder here?
Marky 11:31 pm
this thread is fukktarded
SS 11:34 pm (this post has since been deleted since I pasted it into my notes)
i was hoping for more serious conversation ITT
August 28th:
In the thread entitled T*R? S*S? I'm confused, after many totally random comments from several posters, DMT wrote:
DMT 1:16 pm OK you'll have to turn on the Way Back Machine for this one.
See, not always was it the Bliss and Love of these Undyding Days of Valor here on The Taco.
No my friends, we once did not walk among giants.
Why once? The Taco was a feared den of perdition, of drunken rowdiness and 'nom de jour' avatars coming and going. And this entire seething mass of evil doers was all seemingly bent upon the destruction of he who was called AKCLIMBER.
Verily, I report the truth. Avatars sprang into being just long enough to flame and be vanquished, only to reappear, blown as it were, by fell Internet Winds whistling through the tubes of time.
No name brand climber would dare self-identify in this hole, lest they find themselves besieged by nameless persecutors. Only one such climber posted and surivived those dark years, Wener. He walked through the Valley of the Shadow of Taco Pussies and he feared not.... for Werner wasn't arfraid of anything this side of the Veil. He laughed robustly.
And Lo, Big Mac looked down upon the terrible lamentation of his children and he wept. For in the midst of this strife, this ugliness, this HELL ON EARTH, and even then he was not moved.
No, it was a typo. Yes a typo in the depths of time, a dischordant pluck of a cosmic string.
For I sayeth unto thee, T*R was once Tuolumne Rainbow, and ever the sun shone whence set her electronic foot. She spread laughter and good will and much silliness, and the forest people were glad.
Knot Mac Daddy, no. For Mac Daddy noticed something that had escaped all others and once noticed, he could not let it go, could not shake the nagging insistant urge to DO SOMETHING.
For T*R, in her haste or in her impish levity, spelt her name Toulumne Rainbow.
Now of course once this simple mistake was pointed out to T*R she was slightly embarrassed but not by much really. After all, twas but a simple mistake. Could have happened to anybody and considering the word, well, the vast majority of 1st timers, something on the order of 98%, spell it wrong as well.
But our dear fun T*R discovered an awful truth - she could not edit her profile to change her name.
And so too it came to pass that the demons of the Taco pit began to pursue and persecute the lovely T*R. They hounded her pleasant posts and made fun of her name at every opportunity.
It was in those dark days the demon Tuolene Brainblow emerged, a being of fire and darkness. This foul creature from the Ancient World pursued T*R and well, she fled the field for a time before his firey wrath and cutting edge wit. Besides, he's a funny bastard!
In the mean time BigMacDaddy had seen enough strife in his little kingdom. He reached down from on high and with his mighty mule Programmer, swept from the Taco Land all the malcontents and False Avatars. Why even AKCLIMBER was unmaksed in those days and stood naked before the throne (ew!).
And MacDaddy saw that it was good. With a wave of his magic wand he rewrought the Land of Taco into the Taco we know and inhabit today. This place is completely different than the Old Valley of Taco Death... much safer and the waters FAR LESS CAUSTIC.
And the Great Ones flocked to the new Taco, one after another.
But our friend T*R missed this great reworking of the known world. She was off on a mission from god and did not witness the remarkable transformation of the Taco - the Imposition of the Law.
For Law had indeed come to Taco land and the inevitable bannings and stonings began shortly thereafter. In a few short weeks it was all over but the whining.... MacDaddy had installed a new sheriff in town, an invisible sheriff, Rosey was his name.
Far and wide then did T*R roam, through trial and fire. She emerged, scared and tired, but senses and humor intact. She came anew to the Valley of the Taco and finding her old mispelt name tiresome, adopted her new attitude.
Standing Strong was born. And yet the T*R continued to call and shine forth. Those of us who knew her and remembered, (there are fewer of us now, the Elder) we never stopped thinking of her as Toulume Rainbow and apparently neither did she.
So one night, she was embued with the spirits of the fermented grape and forgot her password of old. In a fit of maudlin nostalgia she resurrected her younger, more innocent self as T*R and verily the world rejoiced.
So now you know the tale. Tell it to your children, sing it from the highest crags. Rejoice for the Light that is Tuolene Brainblow, I mean Toulumne Rainbow... I mean Standing Str....
T*R!
(and tell those old men to leave her alone...)
DMT
Blinny 3:42 pm from DMT's post:
***For T*R, in her haste or in her impish levity, spelt her name Toulumne Rainbow.
Now of course once this simple mistake was pointed out to T*R she was slightly embarrassed but not by much really. After all, twas but a simple mistake. Could have happened to anybody and considering the word, well, the vast majority of 1st timers, something on the order of 98%, spell it wrong as well.
But our dear fun T*R discovered an awful truth - she could not edit her profile to change her name. ***
k
HK 3:45 But our dear fun T*R discovered an awful truth - she could not edit her
profile to change her name. ***
But rather than simply create a new name after discovering her mistake,
she went on to make over 5500 posts with her name spelled that way
t*r 5:16 pm whenever i forget something, i like to ask hardman knott what it was,
because he's always taking notes on me.
The user posts the following, logged in as t*r:
t*r 10:10 pm what i thought was funny was when i met some people, and they were totally tripping, asking why i mispelled it as tho i had some huge philosophical reason for doing so. that's hot.
The user then posts the following, logged in as Standing Strong:
Standing Strong 10:13 pm we're done with this conversation now, t*R.
Hardman Knott's total post count for August: 208; a lot of posts directed at this user
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September 1st: The user started a thread entitled why are men so stoked on finding a girl half their age.
Out of the 158 posts, I made a few, with ZERO directly to this user (I guess I'm a lame stalker).
However, I LMAO when I saw this post: (like I said, this place provides much entertainment):
t*r 6:48 pm it is so weird how many guys check me out when i'm driving - it's the truck - i'm a girl, in a 4X4 w/tinted windows and custom wheels - which were on it when i bought it - i'm not that ostentatious
i almost started a thread about that, instead, but figured this one would be more entertaining :)
(I guess now that I've been officially outed as a STALKER ™ ™ ™ ™, I can finally pose the question:
How is it ostentatious to put tinted windows and custom wheels on a truck, and yet not ostentatious to buy such a truck, especially considering the higher price such a truck would command?)
September 2: The user started a thread entitled you are all my pets, yes..
t*r 3:48 pm best. troll. ever.
Captain...or Skully 3:56 pm No life, huh?
That's too bad......for you
Flashlight 4:03 pm It will never end...
HK 4:15 pm I thought you were busy fending off all those guys twice your age
(being a "future trophy wife" and all).
climbhight 5:46 pm weakest t.r. yet
(the user bumps the two-day dead thread to the top with this newsworthy revelation)
t*r Sept 4 9:39 pm 150 posts and two spinoff threads.
bow down, juan de fuca.
HK 9:47 pm We're all extremely impressed...
t*r 10:50 pm genius.
t*r 10:52 pm i guess that's actually THREE spinoff threads now.
(bumped the day-old thread with)
t*r 8:13 pm wow! i'm losing track of the spinoff threads
Sept 3: In the thread entitled Should Threads be Deleted?, I wrote:
SueV PHD wrote:
Jesus H Christ yea. Especially SS/ T*R. Seems like any random thought that pops into
her head becomes a thread. Maybe put a WEE bit of a lid on it?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
More sage words have knott been spoken...
September 5: In the tread entitled Thanks to Those That try to Keep this a Climbers Forum, I replied to a post:
Nohea: 1:02 pm Slakkey more and more My ipod fills with slakkey music, great music
and great post. I do get suckered into the political crap. On this site you cannot
beat the TR reports.
HK: 1:05 pm You should clarify that you mean TRs (Trip Reports), and knott t*r reports™ (rambling about, like, whatEVER)...
September 10: The user bumps a 2 and 1/2 year old, beaten-to-death thread with:
[b[t*r 11:18 pm bump
HK 12:35 am Why?
MisterE summed it up best with:
MisterE 8:06 am Gee, this hasn't been discussed NEARLY enough!
September 10: the user started the thread entitled DONE w/this website, which apparently didn't go the way the user intended.
It was rife with lots of much deserved heckling, from a bunch of different folks.
Instead of posting individual comments here, I strongly suggest you read the whole
thing if you haven't already, as it was the best laugh a lot of us have had in a very long time.
After the above thread was deleted, the user started yet another thread entitled:
i hope that was very cathartic for you all.. Again, much deserved heckling ensued, and sure enough, she deleted it!
I forgot what the OP said, but here are a couple responses:
marky 10:54 pm oh, well, here you are, after braying about how you were done with the taco.
how utterly expected.
t*r 11:01 pm suck it
HK 11:21 pm Don't go away mad - just go away, you fuçking attention whore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
t*r 11:21 pm "what if this is as good as it gets?"
HK 11:25 (posted screenshot of her goodbye post; at first I screwed up the BB tags)
t*r 11:26 pm HK, u forgot to add the backslash to your last img tag.
{the thread was deleted soon after}
HIghly annoyed at having a bunch of my posts (and those of others) I started this thread:
DONE w/this website
I'm sure most have you have seen it (maybe now you can now appreciate the CONTEXT
in which it was written (not to mention all the other knott-so-sweet posts of mine)
Twenty minutes later, with high-grade tequila coursing through my veins, I launched this as well:
[url="http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=674375"]
Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me! Me![/url]
Again, no need to reproduce all the posts here - go read them if you haven't already.
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So there you have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
You just saw the sum total of everything I've said about The Attention Seeker™
I don't recall ever saying anything mean to The Attention Seeker™ prior to last
month, after The Attention Seeker™ started spewing insults that were knott called for.
Remember, this person has posted OVER 15,000 times in just a few years, and so I think
a little perspective is called for. And yes, this has been a very cathartic experience, to be sure!
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Nunya, America
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:17pm PT
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We kinda knew you weren't stalking anyone, dude.(well, I figured as much).
And....You get the award for the longest post in taco history.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:23pm PT
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Well, you Did label it OCD....
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Ouch!
climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:28pm PT
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What was the question again?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:29pm PT
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Now I'm really starting to worry about Mr. Knott!
BTW, who's the attention whore now??
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:38pm PT
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Sing along...
Love, exciting and new
Come Aboard. We're expecting you.
Love, life's sweetest reward.
Let it flow, it floats back to you.
The Love Boat soon will be making another run
The Love Boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance.
Love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore.
Yes LOVE! It's LOVE!
Love Boat soon will be making another run
The Love Boat promises something for everyone
Set a course for adventure,
Your mind on a new romance.
Love won't hurt anymore
It's an open smile on a friendly shore.
It's LOVE! It's LOVE! It's LOVE!
It's the Love Boat-ah! It's the Love Boat-ah!
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paganmonkeyboy
climber
mars...it's near nevada...
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:38pm PT
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yo's post about the lowes was about as long but a better read ;-)
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andanother
climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:41pm PT
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Wow. You put a LOT of thought and time into that post. That's really sad.
You just raised the bar for pathetic internet losers worldwide!
How many years have you been keeping track of her posts? And how many hours did you spend assembling all that stuff?
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Sep 18, 2008 - 07:42pm PT
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The apex of petty, time-wasting, soap-opera drama moments has just arrived at the Taco.
Thanks for all the entertainment and keep it up.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2008 - 07:49pm PT
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andanother - thanks for the compliment.
It means a lot coming from you, since you sort of set the bar for entertainment around here.
Plus, you put in a really solid effort putting Crowley in his place; that was some proud work...
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hafilax
Trad climber
East Van
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:24pm PT
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It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
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bluering
Trad climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:27pm PT
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Has she bailed?
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:29pm PT
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Damn, man. Do you record all of your conversations or have crazy good memory?
I'm not about to play the "LOL U HAEV NO LIFE" card because I have 4, count them, one two three four, Level seventy characters in World of Warcraft. I am Geek master.
With that said, I think no one took her accusation of you as a stalker seriously (myself included). Your sleuthing was pretty awesome during the Crowley era. That is the only person ever to get under my skin on the internet (this coming from a lifetime gamer with several thousands of hours spent playing with other said losers).
Unfortunately, this post is a little too 'big brother' to make any sane individual feel comfortable.
The internet has the attention span of a gnat, I have learned. I could post a bitter diatribe against every user on the site, and a few months later everyone would probably forget about it. Thus, the magic of anonymity waves its dire wand.
In closing, be less weird. I'm a pretty weird guy, so I have a good yardstick for it. Ignore the young woman, she is suffering from a disease known as "being a woman in her twenties." This can cause civil and social unrest as the burning desire to enslave a mate and reproduce immediately before she turns the magic three - zero. Best bet is to turn on Sex and the City and run for your life.
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:30pm PT
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Yeah, what Halifax said.
BIBLE QUOTER I BET YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE TWIN TOWERS WERE CAUSED BY THE TERRORIST BUTON BUSH HAZ UNDER HIS COAT.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:31pm PT
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Since there's not a ton of posts here I feel fairly safe in asking this Really Dumb question....and I'm not kidding...not good at these Capital Letter Things.
What the heck is OCD ?
Good last paragraph GDavis re: being a young woman in her 20's.
Lynnie
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Flashlight
climber
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:32pm PT
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Well, when being called a "stalker" over and over, I can see why he put so much time and effort into this. Just think how long the thread would have been if he addressed all the "stalking" that took place with me as a target. Multiple posts with actual threats of violence.
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GDavis
Trad climber
SoCal
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:35pm PT
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Man, Wes, if that worked I would've stopped arguing with you a long time ago.
:*
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:36pm PT
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weschrist, you always cut to the chase. Not that I'm saying you are always right. Wish you were going to the Lift...you could school this nice old lady...: )))
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:38pm PT
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Obsessive Compulsive Disorder...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Sep 18, 2008 - 08:46pm PT
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I thought that was more into lining up forks in a row, or putting all your clothes in order. I see no order to HK. ?!
More like AOTM (all over the map) : )) but I could be wrong. kidding,,,,,maybe. Lynnie
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