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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 29, 2007 - 11:41pm PT
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Taken from a Jello post... got me thinking...
"I was once asked by Rock & Ice mag to name the ten climbers who had done the most to influence American climbing. Henry was my choice for the early to mid-70's, followed in time by JB."
I don't know that you can force that kind of number on climbing's influence.
It took Oli 381 pages to capture, quite well, the influencing on free climbing of many many climbers. So trying to capture that influence in 10 people may be near impossible for all of climbing's styles, but it may spark stories and thoughts about what it means to a particular person to have been influenced by certain climbers. [this paragraph edited from original post for clarity]
one figure that always stands out to me is Lynn Hill.
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SammyLee2
Trad climber
Memphis, TN
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Dec 29, 2007 - 11:51pm PT
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No question re. Lynn. Such a great climber and representative. But for me, her ex. BF. John Long holds the high spot. Reading about his and his friends adventures, made me want to climb perhaps as much as my nature did.
Never to forget my local leaders, without whom, I'd be ground bound. Thanks Ted and Scott.
SammyLee
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Dec 29, 2007 - 11:56pm PT
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John Bachar, John Long, Henry Barber, Jim Bridwell, Chris Sharma, Lynn Hill, Warren Harding, Royal Robbins, Todd Skinner, Tony Yaniro, Jeff Lowe, Dean Potter, Randy Leavitt, John Gill, Layton Kor, Tommy Caldwell, Tucker Tech, Harvey T. Carter, Yvon Chouinard, Herb Laeger, Fred Beckey, Peter Croft, and Locker......there;...threw in a few extra in case you need some extras........( I keep on thinking of more...)...honorable mention;...(personal) Dave (Kelly ) Vaught, Dave Evans, Tom Michael, Tom Burke, Al Bartlett, Cyndie Bransford, Mike Paul, Brian Povolny, Tony Sartin, Mike Lechlinski, Kyle Copeland, Andrea Gordon.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 29, 2007 - 11:57pm PT
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Kor
Robbins
Chouinard
Lowe
Lowe
Lowe
Lowe
Hill
Porter
Harding
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 29, 2007 - 11:58pm PT
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For a good long period I would have to say Bridwell belongs in the "10".
He influenced most all the people already mentioned including Long, Lynn, Bachar, Kauk, Graham, Ament Bard etc etc.
The guy was everywhere in peoples heads.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 30, 2007 - 12:11am PT
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no doubt Werner, good call on the actual influence, in addition to lots of spectacular climbs.
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goatboy smellz
climber
colorado
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Dec 30, 2007 - 12:14am PT
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a few missing from todd's list...
Hans Kraus
Chuck Pratt
Wolfgang Güllich
Tom Frost
Mugs Stump
Lynn Hill
Derek Hershey
Rob Slater
Charlie Fowler
John Middendorf
Peter Croft
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:12am PT
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Clyde
Salathe
Robbins
Bridwell
Gill
Kamps
Barber
Porter
Lowe
Kauk
Hill
Croft
oops, top twelve?
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marky
climber
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:15am PT
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Bridwell & Mugs, Backes & Twight
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:19am PT
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All right John.
Which Lowe?
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:23am PT
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John,
Great list.
Don't forget John Muir, Robert Underhill, and you have to include Harding. That makes fifteen at least and, that isn't even close enough to tell the true picture...
Ken
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:27am PT
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Let's not forget to mention:
Walter Bonnatti
Edmund Hillary
John Harlin
Haskett Smith
Mark Powell
Edward Whymper
Patrick Edlinger
Oliver Perry-Smith
Joe Brown
Don Whillians
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:37am PT
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Top twenty?
Muir
Weissner
Fawcett
Moffatt
Harding
Sorenson
Chouinard
Breashers
Edit: P-ron, Jeff.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Dec 30, 2007 - 01:39am PT
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Where would Indian Creek (and any where else)'s handcracks be without Joe Brown?
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10b4me
climber
1/2way between Yos and Moab
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Dec 30, 2007 - 02:16am PT
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Robbins
Harding
Bridwell
Bachar
Long
Hill
Gill
Croft
Lowe(s)
Chouinard
Clyde
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 30, 2007 - 02:16am PT
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Kinda figured, John, but at least two (Greg and Yvon) made my list in part by adding to our arsenal as well.
I thought it self-serving to include partners I (was on record for having) put up routes with, but if like you I listed a dozen, then Bird and Charlie would make the cut. Indeed, Alex was there as the person Charlie was handing the baton TO.
(hey, Phil, Munge said "American". Its confusing ENOUGH already. lol)
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goatboy smellz
climber
colorado
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Dec 30, 2007 - 02:23am PT
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Influenced american, not just American Ron.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Dec 30, 2007 - 02:24am PT
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Top ten is tuff. Top three?
Salathe
Robbins
Croft
??????????
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 30, 2007 - 02:28am PT
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Damn you, Goatboy!!!!!!
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goatboy smellz
climber
colorado
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Dec 30, 2007 - 02:38am PT
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Damn Munge, he started it... I'm off to bed.
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