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jiimmy
Boulder climber
san diego
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 7, 2007 - 08:36pm PT
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How come some climbers need to get stoned so much to enjoy climbing? Is it fear they try to dull? Are they unhappy people? Medical reasons? Please enlight me. And remember berate me kindly....
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Should have titled it Stoned Masters, if I recall none of the Stone Masters got stoned. Maybe some can post up here and confirm or deny this. Use to get high while climbing and we always said, "there's room to get higher" once on top of the climb. Ummmm let's see, Tarbaby, Bachar, Can't Say, or any one else care to comment!!!!!
Peace
I won't berate you Jiimmy, I remember another Jimi from "back in the day".
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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There's a difference between passing a bowl before or having a "j" afterwards and pulling bong tubes all day at the stone. If I get too ripped, my edge is gone and so is the good hard leading; and I feel that I have wasted my day out climbing (no pun intended).
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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A couple of tokes might go down well after a challenging pitch while waiting for your partner to lead through but I believe that heavy loads and great leads are largely mutually exclusive.
But bivies,....
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Levy
Big Wall climber
So Cal
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Many of the best climbers I know have been known to have a bong or pipe glued to their chin at one time or another. It is my understanding that most of the Stonemasters were in fact Stoned- masters.
Like any substance that has medicinal/drug properties, weed affects different people differently. Some people can function well, perhaps even concentrate better while some people are complete basket cases when on the stuff.
It's hard to fathom why so many people fixate on Marijuana as a problem drug. My mother, rest her soul, used it to combat her side effects from chemotherapy and it was the only thing that helped. I sincerely believe that for some people it's like Prozac, it helps them function normally and behave like anybody else. For others it's somethig else and those are the people who should'nt smoke weed!
Just my 2 cents!
Gotta go now, it's 4:20 somewhere right now.
Levy
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WBraun
climber
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Nice post Levy.
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Watusi
Social climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Yep Ron, I remember a pull or two once in a while myself...
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Knob Central
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Levy remembers.
Stone masters had mandatory safety sessions before hard runouts. If you can't function while stoned, you aren't a Stonemaster.
Oh, how many times have I sat in the IDC and empowered myself while staring at the great lightning bolt on the roof....
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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the stonemasters were notoriously sober, like g nome said.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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the stonemasters were notoriously sober, like gnome said.
In the post-Stonemaster era, some found that shaman-type imbibing could allow a man to become the Gecko, and thus perform beyond the capabilities of a man.
I have personally seen someone (famous) flail repeatedly on a thin 5.11, stop, rest, imbibe, become the Gecko, and then calmly float up the pitch.
Doesn't work for me, but I've seen the Miracle first-hand.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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I guess none of you get it.
The stone in Stonemasters does not mean stone as in getting high, it means stone as in rock. Get it, rock. What you climb on.
Climbers don’t get high, not on drugs at least.
Hippies, heads and commies get high on drugs.
Climbers get high on life.
Sheesh, I had to tell you people this and some of you are older than I am. Didn’t you listen to your Ma growing up?
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Are you serious Mike....you got stoned??? Don't believe it....OH was that what we were doing in my car, or yers,or Daves's van, or in the iron door cave, or my tent, or the ranch in Del Mar, or at Shawns, or on various routes????? Man I'm getting the munchies.
Peace
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Once upon a time
in a cave down canyon
someone left some marijuana a hangin'
The tools started watchin'
and, boy, did they start hoppin'
when two longhair climbers walked in.
RW.
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the Fet
Knackered climber
A bivy sack in the secret campground
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I always thought the war on drugs would make sense if they called it the war on drug abuse.
As mentioned, everyone is different, some shouldn't partake at all, some are addicts, some are recreational, some are occasional. Some people get lazy, some people get motivated. IMO it's in the same league as alcohol. Have a few a week, no problem, but try to live your life under it and it's bad news.
There is no "need" for most people. e.g. I can go to a party and have fun w/o a drink, but it sure is nice to have a few beers.
For most people it *increases* the fear.
I don't know any masters I'd classify as unhappy.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Climbers don’t get high, not on drugs at least.
LMAO
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James
climber
A tent in the redwoods
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Last year at Jailhouse one of the local characters hiked up with a big 240 volt battery. The box weighed about 5 pounds, a lot of extra weight on a forty five minute uphill hike, but he didn't care. He busted out the battery and then a few minutes later, out came the vaporizer. He partook heavily and sent hard 5.12.
Also this year one of my friends, who's never had more than a couple sips of beer and certainly never smoked dope, sent 5.14.
Imagine that.
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snyd
Sport climber
Lexington, KY
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Hankster said:"I used to be able to clear a 2 foot glass tube, repack and clear another all in one breath. Then go out and send 13+ at Rifle, or wherever, all day just higher than a giraffes ass. Now the smallest bit gives me a panic attack. WTF!!!!!
Caylor "
Same here (without the 13+ or whatever).
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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No prob Sketch, if we ever meet up you can buy me a beer, but Js are out (for about 20 years now).
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John Moosie
climber
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"I always thought the war on drugs would make sense if they called it the war on drug abuse.
As mentioned, everyone is different, some shouldn't partake at all, some are addicts, some are recreational, some are occasional. Some people get lazy, some people get motivated. IMO it's in the same league as alcohol. Have a few a week, no problem, but try to live your life under it and it's bad news"
Yep...legalize marijuana and it loses some of its ability to be a "gateway" drug. One then doesn't have to delve into the criminal element to find it. It costs less to produce then tobacco. So grow it legally and tax the crap out of it. A pack of smokes could sell for 25 dollars and still be cheaper then todays product. Then take the tax and spend it on drug rehab and on fighting the more dangerous drugs.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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That makes way too much sense.
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