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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Knob Central
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 5, 2007 - 07:42pm PT
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I always want one smaller than the .5 and would buy 2 or 3 if anyone ever made one. I don't see where there would be a strength issue because the pin could be the same size.
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nick d
Trad climber
nm
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You would buy one, over and over, as you repeatedly fixed them! LOL
MS
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Knob Central
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2007 - 07:58pm PT
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I've NEVER fixed a tricam so I don't see why a .25 would be an issue. Heck, carry a nut tool and it isn't an issue.
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feelio Babar
Trad climber
Sneaking up behind you...
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I'll take two...it'd be a great pin scar piece.
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JAK
climber
The Souf
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Two please!
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Gunkie
climber
East Coast US
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I'll take two or three. That little pinky is the perfect way too often. I carry two 1/2 tri-cams and two 1 tricams for Gunks routes.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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I'll buy some.
ANd the ONLY tri-cam I ever lost is the one Stegg still has, that he gear-thieved from me, damntiall.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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hell yeah, I'd be down for two.
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C4C
Social climber
ADKS, NY
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I'd buy a couple baby blue tricams for a quarter each, sure.
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climbrunride
Trad climber
Durango, CO
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Sign me up! I'll take some also.
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Jello and Greg prototyped them in the way back and they stick like glue. Nice pieces but way too easy to get stuck. Can't get your fingers around them is the problem, especially when you're using them as a nut.
Mal
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Greg drew small wired tri-cams from the git-go. Camp never wanted to make 'em, and Lowe Alpine was never really in the hardware business.
It's all about the money. Also, smaller sizes of cam nuts obviously have a smaller safety margin. Wilford started filing down the.5's as soon as he got the first one. He used em on an early 5.13 R/X in Big Thompson Canyon.
Glad you guys love those little pinkies!
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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YOU use a nut tool to lift the tail, then hook the point, to get out small tri-cams. Don't need no stinking fingers.
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quasitrad
Trad climber
Corvallis, OR
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I can imagine that something smaller that a pink tricam would be hard to clean from a deep crack. But those small tricams work in bottoming, nearly parallel cracks like you see in Eldo where nothing else does. I'm not sure about the idea of using them in pin scars though because pin scars tend to be really smooth and taper outward. I had one aid fall where a red one exploded out of a pin scar on me. But then, I'm a lousy aid climber ...
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justthemaid
climber
Los Angeles
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Yeah Man.
Pinky wants a baby brother!
Where do I fill out the adoption papers?
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curlie
Trad climber
SLO, CA
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Two baby blues please. I really only use them cammed in pockets, so getting them stuck isn't an issue.
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Knob Central
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 6, 2007 - 01:26pm PT
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Ok Jeff, now we just need to forward this thread to Camp so that can see how much demand there is for a .25.
Or, anyone up for machining some of these?
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curlie
Trad climber
SLO, CA
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Aren't tri-cams being sold by Trango now?
I think it would be tough to machine a truly representative prototype, too many complex surfaces & setups required. Not to mention fixtures for holding onto the darned thing. But maybe Theron can pipe up here....
How are the production ones made anyway? Cast?
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maldaly
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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I wish...
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dirtbagger
Ice climber
Australia
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ViaMont make wired tri-cams pretty small!
from their blurb on ebay:
size
color
length mm
height mm
width mm
range mm
strength kN
weight g
1
yellow
225
21
17
5-11
5
22
2
orange
225
27
20
7-17
5
26
3
green
225
34
22
8-19
10
37
4
blue
225
44
29
10-24
10
51
5
red
225
55
38
11-27
10
70
6
black
225
65
48
13-31
15
127
I picked one up in Prague, but haven't had the chance to really test them yet! The smallest is definitely smaller then the pink Camp Tri_cam
cheers
dirtbagger
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