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MikeA
climber
Farmington, Utah
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 26, 2004 - 07:33pm PT
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I've heard some people take a thermarest on a wall, but is it sufficient padding for the inside of the haulbag? Would you need a closed-cell foam pad to line the haulbag in addition to that?
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Spinmaster K-Rove
Trad climber
Stuck Under the Kor Roof
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Apr 26, 2004 - 07:45pm PT
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The bad thing about lining it with a thermarest is that if you get a whole in your bag (likely) you will grind a hole in your pad too (bad). I don't really ever 'line' the bag unless my partner has a ridge rest of foam pad or something. I just try to keep the sharp pointy stuff away from the sides.
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Mike
climber
Orange County CA
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Apr 26, 2004 - 08:09pm PT
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Sounds like a good application for a Thermarest. They don't seeem to work for anything elsssssssssssssssssss.
I second Karl: Go Ensolite if you have to pad. Not very convenient pulling the thing out, worse getting it back in. When I bring a pad I usually leave it inside until the bag is a little depleted (conveniently, higher on the wall where it will be colder at night).
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Spinmaster K-Rove
Trad climber
Stuck Under the Kor Roof
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Apr 27, 2004 - 01:33pm PT
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I didn't mean to imply not to bring a thermarest. I have brought one on every wall I've ever done that I planned on using real ledges. I've been camping in the desert on a thermarest for over 10 years and only had problems with it once. Mine is covered with shoe goo at this point, but the thing holds air :)
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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Apr 27, 2004 - 01:39pm PT
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I'd say you are highly likely to either pop it, or drop it. Cheap foam is the way to go.
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HalHammer
Trad climber
CA
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Apr 27, 2004 - 02:08pm PT
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Before I did the Nose, I went to a carpet store in Sacramento. They sell all kinds of carpet foam. I found some nicer foam with plastic on both sides. Was like $7 for a couple big pieces.
I custom cut one to the height and diameter of the haulbag with a razor blade and then covered the edges with 2 layers of duck tape. It fits perfectly inside the bag. Then, I cut a couple circles out of a piece of cardboard and placed them in the bottom of the bag.
To finish off, I went to a hardware store and bought 2 spray cannisters of the plastic tool handle grip coating and sprayed 3-4 coats of it on all the fabric parts of the bag.
I left the foam in place at all times on the wall after realizing how hard it would be to get the foam out and back in to a full bag... 2 walls done with it so far and still looks new.
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Apr 27, 2004 - 02:36pm PT
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There are more experienced voices than mine who have already chimed in but for what it's worth I like using a single RidgeRest cut in half. Super lite, nothing to puncture and each climber gets a half pad for sleeping.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 27, 2004 - 05:09pm PT
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I don't like RidgeRests because they are "bumpy" - it's hard to shove stuff down inside. My pig is lined with blue closed-cell foam that is smooth, but shoving stuff down usually punctures it, so you have to fix the holes with duct tape immediately, or they get much worse.
I bought my current Thermarest in 1988 - 3/4 length Ultralight - and it's still going strong. Your Dr. Piton Big Wall Tip of the Day is to repair it with Seamgrip.
It is, however, getting a bit tired. I may have to cash in on that Lifetime Warranty soon. Maybe next year.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 27, 2004 - 05:10pm PT
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I don't like RidgeRests because they are "bumpy" - it's hard to shove stuff down inside. My pig is lined with blue closed-cell foam that is smooth, but shoving stuff down usually punctures it, so you have to fix the holes with duct tape immediately, or they get much worse.
I bought my current Thermarest in 1988 - 3/4 length Ultralight - and it's still going strong. Your Dr. Piton Big Wall Tip of the Day is to repair it with Seamgrip.
It is, however, getting a bit tired. I may have to cash in on that Lifetime Warranty soon. Maybe next year.
Whatever you line your pig with, don't expect to sleep on it. Except for the last day[s] when you are mostly empty, you'll never get the thing back in once you remove it.
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