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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:36pm PT
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99% of the American population are too out of shape to ride a mt. bike let alone riding it up a steep trail into the back country...Interesting proposition though...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:46pm PT
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If there were a bill opening wilderness lands to bolting with power drills the majority of climbers would be exuberant. Just sayin'...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:46pm PT
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Jes bolt in some O dem solar panels and we be good to go
-terrible herbst
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john hansen
climber
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:53pm PT
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Hey Z ,, lowering the carbon foot print.
Always a good thing.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:53pm PT
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I'd be willing to bet those rubber tires would do less damage than pack trains of horses, and they'd leave less poo poo.
I'm fine with anything human powered in wilderness, including kayaks and hang gliders and whatever. Step off the trail, they go flying by, and go back to hiking. Doesn't seem too bad.
Probably wouldn't be too common in sierra wilderness areas so maybe in other states there are issues I don't know about.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Carson City, NV
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:56pm PT
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I like the idea of bikes being ok in wilderness, but in reality, myself, my dog and my horse have all been run into, or over in Max's case, by mountain bikers going too fast for their line of sight. I do it, you do it, we all do it! At least occasionally.
I don't want to deal with that when I'm out hiking.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Dec 16, 2017 - 10:01pm PT
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I like the ban. It keeps the goobers out, and makes grapppin' down some singletrack ruts on the horsetrails all the more enjoyable.
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
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Dec 16, 2017 - 10:06pm PT
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I thought bikes were allowed in Wilderness areas after deer season closes, that's how it seems to work around here.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 16, 2017 - 11:25pm PT
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“A man on foot, on horseback or on a bicycle will see more, feel more, enjoy more in one mile than the motorized tourists can in a hundred miles.”
― Edward Abbey, Desert Solitaire
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Dec 17, 2017 - 04:27am PT
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No bikes...please.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Dec 17, 2017 - 05:12am PT
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No bikes,just fracking sites and uranium mines.......ok.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Dec 17, 2017 - 05:52am PT
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I like the idea of leaving it up to the land manager, rather than a blanket rule.
...and don't worry about ebikes cuz they have a motorized power source.
This bill amends the Wilderness Act to declare that provisions of such Act prohibiting the use of motorized vehicles, aircraft, or other forms of mechanical transport shall not prohibit the use of motorized wheelchairs, non-motorized wheelchairs, non-motorized bicycles, strollers, wheelbarrows, survey wheels, or game carts within any wilderness areas.
But there is that problem of what constitutes a wheel chair.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Dec 17, 2017 - 06:48am PT
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I think some sort of access for bikes is not automatically a bad idea. Having some trails or old roads freed up seems fine. The Canadian Parks have been doing this for years, and the world has not ended. I think horses and pack trains do a lot of damage and, perhaps, more than bikes would, but I can see the gonzo nut jobs blasting down trails like they own the place and making the back country pretty unpleasant and risky. Horses typically don't gallop down single-track. Way BITD I had a friend who, with some buddies, did a mtn. bike trip into a wilderness area and got busted on the way out. They had to drive from the coast back to Fresno to face the music, which was some fairly small fine. From his reports, they weren't exactly bombing down trails fully loaded, however. He said they covered 25 miles in five hours.
BAd
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seano
Mountain climber
none
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Dec 17, 2017 - 07:25am PT
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It has always bugged me that horses, especially commercial pack/tour outfits, are allowed in wilderness while bikes are banned. I know, "historical use" and all that, but several trails in the Sierra are just trenches full of powdered manure thanks to this policy. Bikes clearly shouldn't be allowed off-trail in the wilderness, but they should be allowed anywhere a horse can go. Whether that means allowing bikes in or kicking the horses out, I'm fine either way.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 17, 2017 - 08:08am PT
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DMT...My mountain bike protects your freedom...
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Dec 17, 2017 - 08:35am PT
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It takes a good guy with a mountain bike to protect you from a bad guy with a mountain bike.
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rincon
climber
Coarsegold
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Dec 17, 2017 - 08:36am PT
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I'm old enough to remember the time before mountain bikes existed. I've seen trails become popular with mountain bikes and get torn apart never to be the same again. Corners cut for a more challenging line, jumps added, ruts cause erosion, off trail riding can't be resisted...bad, bad, bad idea. Horses tear up trails and poop all over the place. They should be regulated more IMO.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Dec 17, 2017 - 08:40am PT
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No bikes in wilderness!
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