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chefer
Trad climber
Altadena, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 11, 2017 - 10:55pm PT
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I was climbing over at Hemingway a while back and looking at the guidebook I saw numerous climbs named after or relating to poodles! Is it some kinda inside joke I'm not in on? Or are the denizens of the desert just a strange bunch with a fixation of fluffy dogs?
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chefer
Trad climber
Altadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2017 - 11:26pm PT
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Crberg, I assume that is a reference to "Poodles are people too", a classic 5.10 in josh. I just did a quick search on mountain project and it looks like there are 32 climbs in j tree with poodle in the name.
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John M
climber
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Apr 11, 2017 - 11:44pm PT
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Perhaps in response to Tami's Avalanche poodle cartoon?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 12, 2017 - 08:53am PT
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those JTree FAers have very strange naming schemes... I think that at least one of the culprits posts to STForum on occasion...
but then again
Kind mit Pudeln
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Apr 12, 2017 - 09:05am PT
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Poodle butt sniffing heaven.
Circle 2: begin rotation for max pleasure.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 12, 2017 - 09:21am PT
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OK... so you guys don't know.....
Brief story.....
A older couple with very fat wife and a small poodle were camped in HVCG, the their Winnebago... Poodle was running around off-leash. Ranger stops by and chides them for the dog off-leash and explains about coyotes....
an hour or two later... about sundown, poodle is back running free...
Climbers, sittin at a close by table making dinner observe Mr. Coyote sneaking up towards Winnebago and Mr. Poodle seems to think its another dog looking to PLAY....they get closer and closer, then Mr. Coyote pounces on poodle, shaking it hard. Poodle gets out a few yelps then goes all limp and bloody and coyote runs towards the open desert with poodle in its jaws.... Fat Wife sees Fifi in the jaws with blood everywhere. She starts shrieking "Fifi Fifi Fifi...." hits the door of the RV and falls down in her haste to go and catch coyote who is now long gone.
The wife gets husband to go find the Rainger he comes over to RV and the wife is demanding that the Ranger go "Hunt down and Kill" the coyote.... you know thats not going to happen.
I can't recall who said it but later a climber remarked... "hey Poodles are People Too" and it was ON.......
This story would get hysterical laughter around campfires for years.
Now you know the rest of the story.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Apr 12, 2017 - 10:25am PT
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Thanks Guyman
Stories like this make Supertopo worthwhile
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Apr 12, 2017 - 10:40am PT
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Thanks Guy, first time I ever heard that story, classic JTree lore.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Apr 12, 2017 - 10:41am PT
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..kinda surprised there aren't any dirty lil Frank references RE: the canine con pelo
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Apr 12, 2017 - 11:31am PT
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Tami you should put up a J Tree 1st ascent called "Poodles are Tranceivers Too"
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Apr 12, 2017 - 11:33am PT
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I have always blamed the JT "poodle paradox" on the nearby influence of Hollywood. Palm Springs, and Las Vegas.
To name just a few.
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Lassitude 33
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Apr 12, 2017 - 12:17pm PT
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Guy's story is pretty funny. But, I am unsure that it is an "origin" story for the Poodle routes in Josh.
The original "Poodle" route in Josh was "Poodles Are People Too," a route established by Charles Cole and myself. At the time, Charles had a large "standard" poodle named Gus. Like most poodles, Gus was a clever dog, and Charles extolled Gus' cannily human-like intelligence.
The route name was really a tribute to Gus.
But, instead of being a "one-off" name, it started becoming an inside joke of sorts with a few of us. We would take the names of other established climbs (which sometimes seemed a bit pretentious to us), and "modify" them by substituting "poodle" in the name.
Scary Monsters became Scary Poodles. Tales of Power was transformed into Tales of Poodles (which was a funny pun too). The Atom Smasher turned into The Poodle Smasher. Knight In Shining Armor became Poodle In Shining Armor. Such A Savage now was Such A Poodle. Solosby to Poodlesby. It was very silly.
Soon, other climbers decided to use the poodle theme in their route names - and not just in Josh.
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BigB
Trad climber
Red Rock
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Apr 12, 2017 - 12:56pm PT
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wat up blood
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Apr 12, 2017 - 01:02pm PT
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IT'S JT.
NOT JTREE.
It's the Monument.
Curt
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Apr 12, 2017 - 01:33pm PT
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Sketchy..... I was not there that weekend. Bullwinkle told me the story of "Fifi" ..... Fifi the poodle.
Many others have repeated the same.
Sometimes the truth is buried in the long ago-- dim and distant-- past. But its a good story.
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Lassitude 33
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Apr 12, 2017 - 01:40pm PT
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Guy, I like your story better! Whether embellished or not, still great.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Apr 12, 2017 - 02:24pm PT
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Alex Lowe used to call it JTRee, good enough for me
I still refer to it as the Monument sometimes.
I wish it stayed that way (a bit lower on the tourist radar)
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 12, 2017 - 02:30pm PT
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I've seen two other pooches get munched by coyotes in JT. Once from the top of the rock in Belle CG. The lady in the RV was letting her little dog run around. She paid us no heed when we warned her. Later, belaying at the top of Count Dracula, I watched the coyotes move in. I even yelled out to warn her but by then she was inside.
On another occasion Chelsea Griffie and I were walking out of Real Hidden Valley at dusk. The parking area was about empty but for an RV with some folks hanging out. We heard some thrashing around and then some final yelps from the bushes across from that easy highball where the trail starts. The folks with the RV heard it too, and as they were comprehending what had just happened we quickened our pace back to camp.
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