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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 24, 2004 - 09:39pm PT
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As promised, after subjecting you all to the "Obscurities" thread, is the comprehensive index of Yosemite Valley Climbs that I have been putting together. It includes something like 2200 climbs from a variety of sources. I have also added the comprehensive list of wall climbs that Chris posted and the SuperTopo community updated recently.
I'd like to thank Clint Cummins, Greg Barnes, Eric Gompers, Chris McNamara, Greg Murphy, Steve Cassels, Gary Carpenter, Karl Baba and all of you who volunteered information in the previous thread...
Yosemite Valley Climbs Index
To those of you who got an advanced copy, this version incorporates changes you suggested, thanks!
[updated the link]
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Jan 24, 2004 - 11:20pm PT
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This is totally awesome, Ed. How many hours…? Nice layout with the guidebook references. This is a great reference that should be passed on to all. Thanks!!!!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2004 - 01:04pm PT
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Minerals - I've been working on it in odd hours since just before the post of the first "Obscurities" thread, early December... this jogged Chris' memory about his big wall index project, which then added some work for me. In addition, there were replies, both to the thread and via email, which I needed to address in the "alpha" release.
There is the rumor of an updated Reid "Free Climbs" guide being assembled. My assumption is that there will be a lot more climbs reported. The editors of that guide should really check the correctness of the index (Reid '94 has a lot of errors), and should consider bringing the climbing history appendix into area conformance, though there is no info on a lot of climbs more specific then their current area designations.
There are other geographical issues every guidebook author has to deal with... more on this later.
Of the current literature, I have been unable to locate the Falkenstein book "Yosemite Valley Sport Climbs". Michael Chessler has it on his web site, but replied to me in email that they don't have any in stock and have been unable to get any from the publisher. It's out of print and nowhere to be found!
There are still a lot of obscure climbs, by which I mean incomplete information. There are a class of climbs which essentially have vanished due to geological activity (kind of cool, acutally).
I had in mind a few research projects that required some sort of organized data base. Now that I have done it, I'm probably going to wait a few months before digging into the data... I was starting to get good humored laughs from my wife everytime she found me bent over my powerbook working on the list, with piles of guidebooks, topographical maps and xeroxed articles from Climbing magazine surrounding me... but it's done!
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Strider
Big Wall climber
Bay Area, Ca
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Jan 25, 2004 - 07:17pm PT
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Ed, I have to say that you have done an AWESOME job here. I had thought about doing something like this but quickly abandoned the idea because it was over my head. Obviously you were more than up to the task. Your in Livermore, I am in the South Bay area, drop me an email some time and I will be more than happy to to buy you a beer. Good Job!
-n
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Jody
Mountain climber
CA
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Jan 25, 2004 - 10:40pm PT
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I checked them off and there are only 8 climbs I have to do to complete the list...
Just kidding...actually, I downloaded it and couldn't open it because I don't have Excel. Is there any way I can open it without Excel?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2004 - 10:59pm PT
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Jody, you can't open the .xls file without Excel I will save a copy as a "comma separated" file (.csv) and post that too for those without evil empire tools... you'll have to reload my climbing page to see the modifications.
It's a VERY wide file, after the title, and the release date, there is a header line which will define the columns. But everyone should be able to look at this file, and maybe even load it into your spreadsheet/database of choice.
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Jody
Mountain climber
CA
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Jan 25, 2004 - 11:17pm PT
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"I will save a copy as a "comma separated" file and post that too for those without evil empire tools..."
LOL!!! Thanks, I am not innocent, I have just about every other evil empire tool.
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ablegabel
Trad climber
Livermore,Ca.
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Jan 26, 2004 - 12:14pm PT
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Ed, I think I have a copy of the Valley Sport Climbs.I'll look for it if you want to borrow it. P.S. I'm moving on the Jan.31st. to Sonora.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2008 - 04:18pm PT
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The latest version of the Comprehensive Index of Yosemite Valley Climbs is posted at my URL:
http://home.comcast.net/~e.hartouni/eph-climbing.html
There are some format changes so if you have made something automagic to read it you might have compatability issues, sorry...
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Cool. When I clicked on the file links on the page, it was asking me for a username/password, but let me view/save the files anyway.
I still haven't finished doing my little micro-ordering of the climbs from the older version! :-)
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 6, 2008 - 04:50pm PT
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didn't put any security on the files...
I just resaved and reloaded them to my site... I guess you can save your own copy and modify that one if it won't let you modify the downloaded one...
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Paulina
Trad climber
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Wow, what a great resource! Thank you Ed! I didn't know about it until your most recent update.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Got it.
Muy Bueno!
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lars johansen
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Unbelievable resource! Many thanks Ed. [database wiz]
Best,
lars
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Mimi
climber
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Wow, Ed. Now I see why Mussy refers to you as a list guy. Another fine effort! Thanks!
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noshoesnoshirt
climber
hither and yon
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That's a lot of climbs. If I could offer some advice, you might want to freeze the panes under row 4 so the classifications are visible for the entire scroll-down.
Edit: Sorry Ed, I forgot to say thanks for the hard work.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Good one noshoesnoshirt: I fixed mine up likewise...
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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HI all,
So basically, we need to make note of the fact that such a database has never been established before. It is just incredible.
There are missing climbs, though, of course. For God’s sake Ed is trying to cover 75 years of climbing. And maybe 110 million square feet of rock? ST doesn’t seem to get the clue either. How about an update, without your “selections” Chris? We need this stuff, this history, published somehow. Without it becoming a "Valley Greeter".
How cool can one get, doing this excel sheet over 5 years. I don’t know. Ed is a really fabulous character and so well loved here.
Ever so many thanks.
ph
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