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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 1, 2006 - 12:33pm PT
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You made a statement that they weren't made correctly and given your experience I thought it would be worth hearing why you think they aren't made well enough to trust.
Also if BD or Petzl cares to respond that would be great too.
Jan McCollum
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WBraun
climber
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Let's see?
I've been using Petzl harnesses since they first came out. I like them. BD I hate their stupid buckles, but petzl is starting to do stupid buckles now too.
I believe coz worked for BD at one time, so he knows some inside thing. I'd like to hear the story also, as to why they are no good.
Damn, what's good?
A steel cable swagged around my waist, might work?
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2006 - 12:47pm PT
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Come on Werner, you know that tied 2" webbing is still good.
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WBraun
climber
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I know, even 1" will work.
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curlie
Trad climber
SLO, CA
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How are we ever gonna get Houser to wear a "real" harness, now? :)
Please don't tell me that I have to wear a harness plus a backup waist webbing loop plus a backup belay loop plus two opposing locking biners. There is such thing as too much complexity and overkill.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Pretty soon harnesses and ropes and pro are going to be obsolete anyway.
Airbag technology man.
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Hummerchine
Trad climber
East Wenatchee, WA
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Werner:
I also have used Petzl harnesses for many years, and love them. I especially like the buckle that you never need to unbuckle, since this eliminates the possibility of forgetting to buckle it. You referenced Petzl now usind a stupid buckle too; what are you referring to? Thanks!
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RRK
Trad climber
Talladega, Al
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PitonRon wrote:
"Pretty soon harnesses and ropes and pro are going to be obsolete anyway.
Airbag technology man. "
Dammit - I'm sick of people stealing my ideas. The self-inflating belay suit is MINE! (Think Micheline Tire Man) The only thing I couldn't get working was the triggering mechanism. The anal probe trigger caused too many inadvertent inflations and made used suits worthless (hell I set it off once thinking about my taxes) The rear-facing optical sensor interfered with the eyeball in my a*# that tells me how far I'm about to fall. Where have you seen this working?? Whoever has this "airbag technology" on the markiet is about to get lawyered.
RRK
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2006 - 01:44pm PT
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I was thinking the suit needed to be voice activated when you say 'Oh sh!t!'. Preferably this would be user selectable for those people that swear a lot while climbing. Cause personally, while that phrase would work for me, saying 'f#ck' wouldn't because I say it while climbing. But then I got to thinking about it and realized that I am not sure I would have time to get an 'oh sh!t' out before I hit the ground most of the time I fall off things.
Maybe we need an accelerometer to kick it off. Where's Juan when we need him?
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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I just found a melted spot on my Petzel Jump belay loop!
JDF
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Hummerchine
Trad climber
East Wenatchee, WA
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Petzl discontinued the Jump many years ago, I'd guess at least 10. Get rid of it!
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maculated
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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" I was thinking the suit needed to be voice activated when you say 'Oh sh!t!'."
I can think of so many excellent times to deploy said suit. My sumo wrestling skills would increase ten-fold.
I say we make it happen.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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One of the lesser known cousins, Zeppo Lowe, is already testing prototypes.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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I'm sorry to report that Zeppo has gone down in a ball of flame. To test the new "Michelin" rig, which was designed to be inflated by lighter-than-air helium gas to twenty times the volume of the wearer, he was making an onsite free solo of the Muir wall. The idea was that not only would the impact be cushioned, but the climber would sort of float slowly to the ground. We couldn't get any helium for this test, however, so we substituted hydrogen.
Nearing the top of the headwall, Zeppo was cranking a one-arm pull up from a single first-knuckle pinky jam, when his little finger ripped off, sending him for a 3,000' flight. Immediately, Zeppo's new fallsuit began to inflate, easing his mind about the consequences of his overexuberant yarding. With time on his hands, Zeppo decided to have a smoke on the way down. Whipping out his trusty zippo with one bleeding hand, and putting a cigarette to his lips with the other, Zeppo flicked his zippo and took a puff. There was an immediate flash, and Zeppo crashed at the base in a ball of flames like a mini Hindenberg.
Not to worry - there's plenty more Lowe's where he came from.
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2006 - 05:11pm PT
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Too fuuny. I am hoping your next relative skewers the top of a 200' tree puncturing his perfectly working puff suit and having survived 2800' he still plunges 200' and dies.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Zeppo was always my favorite Lowe™
oh well...
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couchmaster
climber
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Great stuff up there, can us lazy armchair quarterbacks now assume that Harpo Lowe™ is up next for the Richard Branson-like attempt on 1/2 Dome ! ??
Regards
Bill
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Zeppo's zippo will be mounted and auctioned at the next AAC meeting.
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RRK
Trad climber
Talladega, Al
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OK - at the risk of yet another idea stolen away I think that we should incorporate another of my inventions into the triggering mechanism. Long ago I decided that Windstopper underwear was my ticket to the bigtime, but for some reason nobody else though that it was a good idea. What if we could tap-off the underwear and somehow use it to inflate the belay suit? No need for helium, hydrogen or expensive CO2 cartridges. Just scarf down a couple of cans of RRK's special 5.13 beans and you've got gas for several drops. You could even tap off for a stove and lantern if you have to bivy. Maybe we should just do away with the belay suit entirely and use some sort of jet-nozzle for lift (visualize the Lunar Module if you older that 30). Cha-Ching? Anybody want to go in on this project?
RRK (Rich-Rich-Kenny?)
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Mimi
climber
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Aaahh...no.
You ever go to those NASCAR races at Talladega? Isn't it one of the fastest tracks besides Atlanta?
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