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WBraun
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:09am PT
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I hate to tell you ..... this is stupid and your queries are biased from the start.
And those are my thoughts ..........
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand, Man.....
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:18am PT
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hahaha! right on Werner... you dirtbag!
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2006 - 12:22am PT
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Thanks for your positive, enlightened remark. Do you even know what 'biased' means?
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Mtnfreak
Mountain climber
Bellingham, WA / Bishop, CA
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:38am PT
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What is your opinion on dirtbags? If you hate them, tell me why.
This automatically requests a more precise response if you have a negative response to the term "Dirtbag". To layman like myself, that creates a bias.
Were you once a DB who's been reformed?
Using the term "reformed" in modern American society implies that the person in question had some sort of deviance. Again, this creates a bias in the question, and generates a different positive versus negative response.
If so, what changes have you made willingly or otherwise to digress from being a Lifer DB?
I found this question to be very interesting - the previous two set the status of a Dirtbag in negative spectrums, since they could be "hated" and "reformed." But this time, to stop being a Dirtbad was a "digression," which implies that being a dirtbag is a "progression." Regardless, there's a bias.
Do you know anyone who might be a Weekender DB?
If so, what are some things you notice about them?
No comments on these two. As I said above, I don't know much. "Bias" seems to me to be phrasing a question that creates, requires, or generates a measurably different response between positive and negative descriptive responses. If my layman-off-the-cuff definition is correct, than your "interview" questions appear to have bias.
Now, just a word to the wise. Mr. Braun has seen more sh!t and forgotten more sh!t than almost anyone else here. To speak rudely to him will make you no friends.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:42am PT
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H.Lea
The only real so called dirtbag I've ever really known is Tucker Tech. And I'm not saying this in a derogatory manner, but in respect.
The guy is just fuking awesome! I have so much respect for this guy as an individual. He is for real.
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2006 - 12:58am PT
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Okay, how about this...I am writing a story for a reputable magazine entitled Is Dirtbagging Dead? Perhaps the questions are biased, but the other side of the subject has been thouroughly covered, hence my search for those who 'dislike dirtbags' and those who once were dirtbags and 'reformed'.
Being an accomplished climber who's seen a lot of sh!t does not necessarily give one the exclusive right to respond rudely in the first place to someone trying to get feedback from the community.
Cheers.
Heather
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2006 - 01:09am PT
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Reputable magazine?
The title was "Your thoughts ...." I gave you mine. What do you want? Something that fits your preconceived ideas?
I still think it's a stupid subject matter. Now listen very closely. THAT IS MY THOUGHT.
Someone else most likely will give you what you really think you want. Then take what you want.
Happy thesis ............ :-)
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Oct 29, 2006 - 01:24am PT
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Dirtbags come and go;
But we are here.
Who are we?
A piece of yourself that you perhaps forgot to remember.
Nothing special,
Move along.
Can't sleep here.
cheerfuly yours,
tarbousier.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Eastside
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Oct 29, 2006 - 05:21am PT
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Troll
anybody else google "Heather Lea"?
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Fatass
Social climber
Claremont, CA
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Oct 29, 2006 - 10:31am PT
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Is Climbing still considered a reputable magazine? I even hesitate to read it in the shitter. I personally find it constipating.
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2006 - 11:15am PT
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My thoughts on dirtbags? Well, I love being one. I'm not always one, b/c I can't have the luxury, but when I do, it's one of the more real experiences in my life. The friends I have who might also consider themselves dirtbags are the first people I'd rather have a conversation with.
No offence was intended by the questions. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
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bill
Trad climber
ca
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Oct 29, 2006 - 11:51am PT
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to dirtbag is to climb
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2006 - 11:53am PT
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Those who think they are a dirtbag are not one.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:27pm PT
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By choice, I was once a dirtbag climber. Not by my choosing, I have devolved back into the American middle class which spawned me. Dirtbags dig deep into the most fertile soil of life. That's why they're dirty...
Dirtbag hippie climbers from the early 70'S:
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2006 - 12:32pm PT
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Jello and Locker
Love it. More what I was looking for.
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10b4me
Trad climber
California
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:41pm PT
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even if this is a troll, Werner's answers are hilarious.
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Elcapinyoazz
Mountain climber
Anchorage, Alaska
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Oct 29, 2006 - 12:58pm PT
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Maybe you should focus on the proliferation of fees that makes the lifestyle almost prohibitive these days.
I speak of many formerly free camping areas at climbing destination areas becoming pay only, having the fees raised, or in danger of becoming pay...Josh, Yos C4, Smith grasslands, being examples respectively.
Stick a sign and a trash can or shitter there, call it "improvements" or "facilities"...none of which were requested or wanted from the primary user group (climbers) and start charging.
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2006 - 01:37pm PT
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Blinny,
I think dirtbagging is all relative to what your lifestyle was like before you took your trip.
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2006 - 01:39pm PT
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Elcapinyoazz,
Point taken. And higher cost of fuel = less likely to jump in your car for that spontaneous trip to Mexico.
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