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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:06pm PT
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"fairer sex"
Damn right.
"Brutish style of climbing intimidates women?"
That'd be my guess...not so much the 'macho' part, but the downright sometimes brute-force element of walls just isn't so appealing.
Edit:
That's just not a fair or accurate analogy, bravecowboy.
Edit2:
Not artificial at all. Just a different experience. My terror in hanging off a tiny HB offset on the Shield was entirely real...nuthin' artificial about it!
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:07pm PT
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aid is to climbing as prostitution is to sex.
that is, it's kinda lame. I rarely feel pride C1'ing.
EDIT: Ap, both ways are artificial, no?
EDIT2: impure? cop-outs? YKWIM
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:14pm PT
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There are a lot of female climbers now.....go to Indian Creek, the City of Rocks, the Gunks or anywhere there is good climbing and you'll see nearly as many women as men. Women are smart and would much rather explore creative body movement free climbing then haul a portal ledge up a wall so they can smoke pot, drink cheap ale and trade farts with their partner.
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Alpamayo
Trad climber
Davis, CA
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
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Common sense?
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
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Low T
Long fingernails, tender hands
Heavy gear slings an boobs don't mix
Is that why you don't aid climb?
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Gilroy
Social climber
Bolderado
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:46pm PT
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^^^ No kidding. I knew when I saw the thread title that we could count on anita
514 & Tami.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:46pm PT
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Common sense?
Heh-heh
I think he may be right
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 26, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
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Tom Evans spying on them when they have to go
haha!
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Oct 26, 2015 - 02:09pm PT
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Another reason is generally lower body weight - makes it harder to haul.
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Alpamayo
Trad climber
Davis, CA
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Oct 26, 2015 - 02:15pm PT
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Another reason is generally lower body weight - makes it harder to haul.
Have you ever seen Mark Hudon (or myself, for that matter)!?!
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Oct 26, 2015 - 02:28pm PT
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What're you doing hangin out with a wall addict?
He has a big funkness device.. duh
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Oct 26, 2015 - 02:43pm PT
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<Another reason is generally lower body weight - makes it harder to haul.>
Have you ever seen Mark Hudon (or myself, for that matter)!?! Yes, you can still haul a bag if you are light, using a 3:1 setup.
It is a statistical argument. I'm not saying that it's impossible for light people to haul a bag. It's just harder, and it is a factor which may make some lighter people less interested in aid/wall climbing.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 26, 2015 - 03:18pm PT
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Most ladies can free climb really well. So why hang when you can climb.
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cvcucr
Mountain climber
Riverside
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Oct 26, 2015 - 03:58pm PT
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Meg:
I would like to have my wife to do an aid climbing wall with me. She is reluctant because of the "bathroom" situation. Even though she has camped with me for many years (wilderness/no toilet), trying to get that done on a wall is just a little more than she wants to try.
Fiddling with the gear doesn't bother her, and she doesn't see it as brutish. However, she does expect me to do the hauling ;-)
also: yeah, I'm "over-eager" to bring her up there haha
but we love doing things together, this will be no different. We are looking forward to doing many walls together.
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leasure
Trad climber
Reno
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Oct 26, 2015 - 04:16pm PT
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You should ask BURT BRONSON for the real answer.
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whitemeat
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo, CA
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Oct 26, 2015 - 04:17pm PT
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Smarter
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Oct 26, 2015 - 04:17pm PT
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You piss in a bottle with a funnel and sh#t in a bag. I don't know what the issue is? Bring a change of pants or pants that dry fast cuz you will piss on your pants.
Lots of baby wipes. I had my period last month on the wall so that sucked (yeah yeah, TMI), but otherwise you get over it and deal.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Oct 26, 2015 - 04:23pm PT
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Ack! That cannot be unread!
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cvcucr
Mountain climber
Riverside
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Oct 26, 2015 - 04:29pm PT
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You are my hero anita514! I would never be able to say something like that to her (and get away with it).
She'll do it... it's just the first-hurdle to get over.
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SuperTopo on the Web
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This is just a symptom of an already small number of females in the climbing community. 
Let us know!