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travistodd1
Mountain climber
Camp Verde, Arizona
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 17, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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This forum was recommended to me by a member of another.... I am hoping someone can give me some guidance.
I am truly a new guy to the rappelling scene. I have been given an opportunity to become a search and rescue coordinator and will be doing some rope work (with lots of training) and short haul work from a helicopter. I have to supply my own gear and they supply the training and overtime....
I believe I need a Class III harness for the helicopter work and would probably prefer a full body any how. That being said I probably have to buy used gear because I am on a budget. I am a larger guy and will probably need a harness that falls in to the XL category. I have seen some "riggers" harnesses at great prices but am certain these are not intended for rappelling work. Any suggestions on where to look? I need all the help I can get. At this point I really have no idea what I am doing or have gotten in to.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Feb 17, 2015 - 06:24pm PT
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gonna
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 17, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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Hello,
My local Boy Scout Troop has been given permission to give a rappelling
demo at a local college. All the kids want to take part so it should be alot
of fun for the parents to watch. The rappell will be down a 150 ft wall.
The kids have to take off their shoes as to not damage some new artwork
halfway down.
The kids will clip into the rope, and climb over a small 3 ft wall to begin
the rappell. They have all been practicing using the brakes over the summer,
on our 20 foot practice wall.
We plan to give fireman belays from the ground.
At the planning meeting earlier in the week, one of the parents
was giving us alot of trouble, saying we needed more advice on
how to do the demo.
It seems quite safe to me. I figure once they are on rope, if anything
goes wrong, we can brake them from below.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Henry
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travistodd1
Mountain climber
Camp Verde, Arizona
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2015 - 06:43pm PT
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys.... I figure with all the other crazy crap I do, something will do me in sooner or later. Rather go out doing something I enjoy that at 95 with a diaper. Plus I have great life insurance!
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Feb 17, 2015 - 06:46pm PT
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I and those here are In rare form this evening, that is a proud welcome that you just received!
Cause you will need strange gloves? What sort of hand protection have you looked into?
Fingerless?
I think a Shotgun or shooting gloves that only exposes the tips of the index and middle finger of your prominent hand is, all things considered, the best way to go.
A pair of gloves like that in a day glow color so that hand signals can be discerned from below or far away will be indespenceable.
Locker carabiners have been proven to also save lives. Get all sorts and choose the one that best fits your grip, All and almost any gear will eventually be used.
When the need arrives it is nice to have the right tools to do the job.
You will be glad to have extras around to save your self & fellow rescue workers/rapellers and accidents' victims.
Good luck, saving lives is a high calling!
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It will last well into your grandchildren's lives, something to hand down through the generations.
If you ask, maybe they will work up a (most) burly Coated, Harness, custom made to fit you in all conditions, over flight suites or what ever,
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EDIT : in the wee hours of the next day,
Post #14 GO to Ghost's recommended link!
POST #17 by Flip Flop!! THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND BEST PICTURE OF HOW TO RIG A RAP.
(the purple sling could be a bit shorter,but that just me)
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Feb 17, 2015 - 06:51pm PT
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Wow, three thumbs up to posters 2, 3 and 4. Talk about a team effort!
I am unfamiliar with a "riggers" harness. Can you please explain?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 17, 2015 - 06:55pm PT
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It's "riggers". Get your eyes checked.
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travistodd1
Mountain climber
Camp Verde, Arizona
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 17, 2015 - 06:56pm PT
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I'm not even going to touch that one....
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Feb 17, 2015 - 07:08pm PT
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Aw, sh#t, I don't have my reading glasses on.
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LearningTrad
Trad climber
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Feb 17, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
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Nice, PtPP - you dumb son of a bitch
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 17, 2015 - 08:28pm PT
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I am truly a new guy to the rappelling scene.
We've got you covered, so don't do any worrying. If your new to the repelling scene, their are poeple here who can help.
It was not very long ago that somone just like you showed up, and asked some questiuns, and at first he was laughed at, but he stu\ck around and perseveered, and pretty soon he not only was a good repeller but he also was a really good climber and not only cimbed big mountains but also made realy good eqipment for rescuing climbers.
His name (not his real name but his internet name) is Weld_It and he is definitly the right guy to help you. You can probable learn more about him in this thread: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1484035&msg=1484035#msg1484035
and I think their is a way to send mails to peple on supertopo and if you find a message from him you cna click on his name and send a message.
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Under Achiever
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Feb 17, 2015 - 11:14pm PT
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Good man, Ghost.
And hang in there, travis. If you can endure a month or two of nonsensical responses to your earnest questions, eventually folks here will start seeing you as a living, breathing human being,
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Feb 17, 2015 - 11:26pm PT
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Yeah. No.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Feb 17, 2015 - 11:37pm PT
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Preferred method.
1. Full load autoblock
2. Both hands on brake
Rappelling is Dangerous.
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Jones in LA
Mountain climber
Tarzana, California
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Feb 18, 2015 - 12:09pm PT
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I've been climbing for 44 years and have changed my rappel setup about as often as Tiger Woods has changed his golf swing. My current configuration has the elements of what is shown in @FlipFlop's photo, but arranged differently. I'm intrigued by the arrangement shown in the photo -- could this be the ONE for me?
@FlipFlop, and/or anyone else, would you please elaborate on where/how you place your hands, and the merits, and potential downsides (if any) for this particular arrangement? Many thanks.
Rich Jones
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Myles Moser
climber
Lone Pine, Ca
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Feb 18, 2015 - 12:15pm PT
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What the hell is all that?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Feb 18, 2015 - 12:26pm PT
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Twice in one day! NIAD x2.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
therealmccoy from Nevada City
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Feb 18, 2015 - 12:32pm PT
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Or, just like flip flop has it, except, using a double length sling, knotted in the middle, with the ATC at the knotted mid point; so similar, except with another loop, the other half of the knotted sling, as an easy personal anchor. ( Admittedly, I don't ALWAYS do it this way, this is just like the "ideal" set up in my opinion. )
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Jones in LA
Mountain climber
Tarzana, California
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Feb 18, 2015 - 12:37pm PT
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@MouseFrom, you've got me all distracted like a dog spotting a squirrel. I have heard that there is/was a guy who specialized in establishing 'rappel routes' in Yosemite. Is one of the fellows in this photo, that guy? Not that I have a very strong interest in rappel routes. I don't like rappelling much at all. Ironic I guess, for making my first post in this forum to ask a question about rappelling.
Rich Jones
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