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john hansen

climber

Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 17, 2014 - 08:03pm PT

Went though a couple of these the last few days. Even though I have nothing illegal I still get an adrenaline rush going thru a checkpoint were they have armed men with sniffing dogs stopping you out in the middle of no where. I understand the mindset that created these checkpoints but I feel like I am in a Nazi state when I have to go through one.

Like correction officers and for profit prisons. If they decide to hassle you they can f*#k with you even if you have done nothing wrong.

A police state.

I would hope even Ron and Blue and particularly Toker Villan would agree. What happened to moving about freely in the USA, minding your own business, with out having to justify your status as a US citizen?

Glad to be north of that stuff now, but it is scary the direction this is going.

thebravecowboy

climber

hold on tight boys

Oct 17, 2014 - 08:09pm PT

indeed, this is an interesting question to pose of folks that may have previously supported so-called "law and order" politickers/politics

Ricky D

Trad climber

Sierra Westside

Oct 17, 2014 - 08:11pm PT

A Good Citizen would realize there is no reason to the leave the Homeland.

What are YOU up to?

Norton

Social climber

quitcherbellyachin

Oct 17, 2014 - 08:29pm PT

It's a rightful tradeoff isn't it?

If we want "border security", as in none of them job stealing, criminal, "illegals" getting in......

then we have to not only accept but fully support our tax dollars being spent on doing everything possible to prevent them getting in and that includes all Border Patrol Checkpoints.

It may be an inconvenience being stopped and hassled a bit but isn't all that effort worth it?

zBrown

Ice climber

Brujò de la Playa

Oct 17, 2014 - 08:36pm PT

Look on Youtube for checkpoint adventures. It's out of control.

I was traveling out to Lake Morena near the border near Tecate a lot for a while.

Passed through the checkpoint repeatedly. It's easy to avoid getting hassled, but nevertheless the behavior of the people manning these checkpoints is by and large totally illegal.

I guess you have to pick your fights.

john hansen

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2014 - 08:37pm PT

When I am in southern Arizona I try to have at least two or three illegal
dudes in the trunk.

I wanted to ask the dog, what do Mexicans smell like?

That is Hansaan for you Milktoast .

Allah Akbar.

This is going to put me under a government watch.....

Willoughby

Social climber

Truckee, CA

Oct 17, 2014 - 08:56pm PT

I agree. These unconstitutional checkpoints bother me. I also hate going through the I-80 ag station, which I sometimes have to do multiple times per day. They just wave me through, but it's still wear on my brake pads.

Speaking of adrenalin rushes while not doing anything, does anybody else ever feel oddly guilty when walking out of a grocery store after deciding to not buy anything?

WBraun

climber

Oct 17, 2014 - 09:00pm PT

I wanted to ask the dog, what do Mexicans smell like?

LOL .....

zBrown

Ice climber

Brujò de la Playa

Oct 17, 2014 - 09:02pm PT

^Good point Willoughby. I was thinking of putting one of the "inventory tag" mag stickies on the bottom of my shoe and triggering the alarm system, but I've observed that no one even responds when the alarm goes off.

Better yet I'm gonna get some of that Mexican smell from one of my neighbors and rub it on my shoes (when I'm ready to get in a fight).

rwedgee

Ice climber

canyon country,CA

Oct 17, 2014 - 09:08pm PT

Tioga nailed it !!!
Watched an 18 wheeler get the twice over off the side of the I-5 today. Four CHP's sitting around waiting for the K9 unit to arrive and give them the go ahead for "probable cause". Not that German shepherds are noted for their noses....

john hansen

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2014 - 09:25pm PT

Tioga,

"The dog's alert on command"

that's the problem....and true.

I am innocent, but they can do what ever they want. Detain me with no probable cause. Whatever. Tear my car apart. whatever...

No wonder Werner stay's in the Valley...

I hate to say it but I bet many of the Border Patrol people are ex military, Iraq / Afganistan vets where they feel they should have the power over the people.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Oct 17, 2014 - 09:33pm PT

ADAM-69 on the Mexican Border:

David Plotnikoff

Mountain climber

Emerald Hills, CA

Oct 17, 2014 - 10:12pm PT

I, too, have spent a fair share of time at the southern end of the PCT, starting in Campo (San Diego County) at the border fence. The first 20-30 miles north from the border are an armed camp that seems ready for war at any moment. My wife and infant child were stopped several times. Since I was on foot (on the same paths used by the aliens) I avoided the police state scene. But the message, from the saturation of choppers and 4WDs all the way north to Warner Springs was unmistakable: You're not in the real US right now, you're in the marginal US where we have the benefit of applying martial law.

For whatever it's worth, I crossed into Canada on foot on the PCT at Manning Park and never saw a single LEO from either side of the border. Crossing back into the US, I handed my PCT exempt crossing form to the US border officer who asked "What in the hell am I supposed to do with this?" Thanks, tool.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber

Oct 17, 2014 - 10:42pm PT

Are you serious---whining about this nation actually exercising the responsibility to monitor who or what crosses our border as being somehow on par with a Nazi state. Especially given the nature of the world we live in.
Are you that spoiled or that stupid , or both?
Probably both.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber

Oct 17, 2014 - 10:53pm PT

Yeah ,imagine people complaining about the federal government not really enforcing the immigration laws. What is the world coming to.

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

extraordinaire

Oct 17, 2014 - 10:56pm PT

I've always heard about police corruption down there, but on an extended trip to Jalisco in 2000 I never saw abuse, or anything out of the ordinary.
I then traveled north from Colima to Tijuana on bus lines - you start seeing more checkpoints as you go north, could it be cuz us americans are the addicts buying all that weed etc from them?
In La Paz they search my luggage and found some climbing chalk, and questioned me, taste tested it, and waved me thru. No big deal.
Edit: OP is about Border Patrol checkpoints - I was talking about Mexican checkpoints- sorry for the drift.

Ward Trotter

Trad climber

Oct 17, 2014 - 11:09pm PT

Well at least your honest in admitting it.
So , despite our laws they will continue largely to be ignored, in order to allow a relatively small group of people in this country to remain spoiled and stupid .

Sounds like a recipe for first world status in the foreseeable future.

zBrown

Ice climber

Brujò de la Playa

Oct 18, 2014 - 07:47am PT

My experience with Border Patrol agents off the highway has been quite good. There are two of us dressed in hiking/running apparel and though checked out warily at first by them, they have all been pleasant and a few actually friendly. When we drove to the southern terminus of the PCT two agents on four-wheelers approached us as we neared the border, asked where we were going and actually guided us there.

IMO it is the checkpoints that are the problem and these are cowboys looking to score a big drug bust, not folks illegally in the U.S.

Both sides are lawyering up these days. Know your rights, but pick your fights carefully. Folks exercising their rights have had their windows bashed in and been dragged off to jail. They eventually prevail, but it is not what I would call "having a nice day".

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