I offer an alternative to depression, anger, and emptiness.

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
This thread has been locked
Messages 1 - 20 of total 304 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
micronut

Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 12, 2014 - 10:30pm PT
Supertopo has had its share of loss lately. Climber's deaths, good posters leaving, threads getting out of hand and users getting deleted. There are four separate suicide threads going and most of them have people arguing and saying vile things to eachother while others mourn and share of their own dealings with suicidal tendencies.


I feel it would be downright un-caring of me not to share what I firmly believe to be the cure for man's inherently broken condition, and that is the crazy real love and joy that comes with knowing Jesus Christ.

Now I'm prepared to take some heat for this. This website has some of the most hateful people on it that I have ever encountered, and many more who detest Christians and enjoy making fun of them or those they believe to be Christians. I'm fine with that. Haters are gonna hate. Its commonplace around here to have people hate on christians. But there are also many many more of you who are kind and generous and thoughtful and creative and stoked who are really fun and cool and great to hang out with in real life or just here in playpretendland. But I say this. In Christianity come a few things that are very real and very profound, and for any of those that seek solace from their constant anger, constant inner sorrow, constant battle with depression or fear or distrust or emptiness..........it just doesn't have to be that way. Now don't get me wrong, the maladies of life and humanity do not just disappear with a life devoted to a loving and sovereign God, they just don't hold such power over you or define you anymore.

My life is full of joy. True, deep, warm, filling joy. Like being on a summit in blue sky with your best bud with nothing but endless peaks around. No lie, that's what beats inside my gut every day. And I did not invent or contrive it. It was a gift. That's all.

My life has purpose. My Fate is sealed. My days have meaning. My nights have comfort. My identity is secure. I fear not. I ride an even keel. I am slave to nothing. My load is light. My needs are few and simple. I am not lonely. I am loved. I am inherently selfish and broken but in a state of repair and for that I am grateful but I am not unique. Any true Christian feels all the above things. It's a rare thing out there and its the real deal. It's what comes with the gift of a new and fresh perspective and a transformation from old to new. We all do. And we look at a world of friends and family around us swimming in circles of pain and emptiness and anger and malice and sadness and downright loneliness and we feel for them. Basically I'm not one to typically share my faith with those who don't ask. But really, I like so many folks here on Supertopo and I feel for those that may be hurting or wondering if there is something more to life and since I've seen so many people in my life share real testimonies about once being there and now living such a rewarding life in Christ that I have to tell myself "Scott, if you don't say something you really just don't care about these people."

So there. I said it. I'm a Christian who lives each day with a higher calling and a peace in me that is beyond understanding and I sometimes can't help but want to share the stoke.

So twenty something TR's later and seven years of general climbing stoke and you get one blatant Christianity offer thread. If any of you ever want to know more about the Christian faith and a true slake for thirst that comes from a well that will never dry up, feel free to ask me here or email me or find me in Facebook land. I care about yall, and I've never met most of you, but it grieves me to see such hurt and confusion and anger and vinegar out there. I just know it doesn't have to be that way.

So let the slander begin. That's cool. But I'm just goin on the record that if anyone ever wants to chat about the good stuff, I'm here. Who knows, this might be the start of a new day for somebody.

See you around Supertopo, I got a TR to write.

Your resident Christian,

Micronut.



thebravecowboy

climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
Wasn't Robin Williams pals with JC?


And speaking of the good stuff:
a true slake for thirst that comes from a well that will never dry up



Sorry for razzin' you there, Micronut, I understand that your faith is important to you. I appreciate that your proselytizing is well-intentioned, but I would never try to sell other folks - especially those in utmost weakness - to worship my seven-headed goat god by drinking of the proffered bloodcup. To each their own, I s'pose.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:40pm PT
Nicely said Micronut. Faith is something we all need.
jstan

climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:45pm PT
Faith in what?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:47pm PT
Faith in good
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
Jesus Christ certainly carried me through my Valley of the Shadow of Death, as I've reported elsewhere:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1133733&msg=1134943#msg1134943

As I reported there, too, depression can be a medical condition requiring professional help. I will make this offer as forcefully and as often as I can: if anyone facing the demon of depression needs to communicate with someone who's been through it, PM me anytime.

John
MisterE

climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
Joy is a nice place to start.

I start with it almost every day.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:48pm PT
Religion is so awesome. It's so loving and tolerant. Are you thick? It's the culture of lies and delusions that cause people to be disconnected from what is real. Keep your cult of hate to yourself.

There is nothing as telling about religion as the claims of admitted nutjobs and losers who want you to follow their advice into the joys of self delusion.

Zeus would kick Jesus' lying ass all the way to hell. Liars and delusional sociopaths, the lot. Move to Jerusalem you geniuses. See where your book of hate is leading us.
WBraun

climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
climbski2 -- "Faith in good"

Yes

Faith in pure goodness.

Even if you are an atheist you have faith in that ......
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:51pm PT
I once met a girl named Joy...
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Wtf is pure goodness? That's total nonsense.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
*
Um...I know of two tacoheads that are christians and they STILL Suffer Greatly with depression...just a guess, but i think being a christian helps them cope some...but ..they still struggle with depression and it's ills..

I don't think you understand how severe depression can be. Your answer to depression seems a bit simplistic for a complex illness.


Perhaps they will speak up...
Edge

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:56pm PT
I was repeatedly taught that I needed religion, but I grew to realize that what I really needed was spirituality.
WBraun

climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:57pm PT
Yes ^^^^

You've already proved yourself to be pure nonsense .....
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:58pm PT

Jesus Christ certainly carried me through my Valley of the Shadow of Death

me too.
Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:00pm PT
Faith in good

Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:04pm PT
micronut climbs at Alabama Hills. Truth that hell is real.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:07pm PT
Hey Werner,
Climbing the walls is a metaphor for crazy. Tag, you're it.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:09pm PT
Some of you believe in spirits, shocker! Pseudo-facts from the vacuum of your minds.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
How many spiritualists here were victims of childhood religious indoctrination?
Messages 1 - 20 of total 304 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
 
Our Guidebooks
spacerCheck 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks

guidebook icon
Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Route Beta