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Cragman
Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 17, 2013 - 10:30am PT
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Hard to believe it has been 50 years since this terrible national tragedy....yet it remains one of the biggest mysteries in our nation's history.
Thoughts?
Go....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Potemkin Village
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Nov 17, 2013 - 10:55am PT
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You know, adults should have to prove they graduated 8th grade and are English grammar proficient before being allowed to post on any public internet forum.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Nov 17, 2013 - 11:16am PT
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Yep, it was an Italian rifle that used a full metal jacket bullet. Most of the length of the bullet could be engaged by the barrel for spin, making it highly accurate.
No question in my mind a single gunman did the job, but he still could have had some support. His visit to the Russian embassy in Mexico is still unexplained.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Nov 17, 2013 - 11:46am PT
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We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard do something hard today.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 17, 2013 - 11:49am PT
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"What has been holding us back for so long?"
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 17, 2013 - 11:59am PT
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As usual rSin comes through with enlightening, factual documentation. JFK was pissing off the establishment on all fronts as he strove to advance our cultural and political evolution. Evil triumphed the day "they" blew part of his head off . . . our nation has suffered the repercussions that are so acutely evident in this current age of political arrogance, greed and cultural stagnation.
May "they" rot in hell.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 17, 2013 - 12:01pm PT
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"JFK was pissing off the establishment on all fronts as he strove to advance our cultural and political evolution."
We're right back there again, aren't we?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Nov 17, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
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Yes, in many respects we are . . . interesting parallels as the parabola of history repeats itself. Yet I believe we would have been in a better place had Jack not been murdered . . . but what-ifs are pointless right?
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Nov 17, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
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No chance in hell Oswald acted alone..
Fatal shot obviously came from front..
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Nov 17, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
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The back muscles contracting from a head shot can cause the head to move backwards. Back muscles much stronger than abs.
Entrance wounds are generally much cleaner than exit wounds. A shot from the front would make the blown-out section of Kennedy's head the entrance wound. Not likely.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Nov 17, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
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Sadly for our country and JFK, Oswald was the luckiest human being on the planet for the 1 minute that he needed and wanted to be...
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Nov 17, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
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No chance in hell Oswald acted alone..
Fatal shot obviously came from front..
This has been disproven so many times it almost doesn't deserve addressing but wingnuts will believe whatever they like, irrespective of all evidence. For those who are interested in facts, the definitive book on the Kennedy shooting is "Case Closed" a 2003 book by Gerald Posner. Another great book, debunking all conspiracy theories is Vincent Bugliosi's 2007 book "Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy." If you're not up for reading the full 1,600+ pages of that book, Bugliosi later published a 2008 condensed version (still 700 pages) called "Four Days in November: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy."
Curt
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Nov 17, 2013 - 01:11pm PT
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I honestly do not believe Oswald acted alone.
Unlike many other people.
Tastes differ, however bitter..
I wasn't there and neither was ANYONE on this forum...
So how can so many grassy knoll witnesses be so easily discounted??
Apparently 35+ witnesses? I tend to believe the people who were there.
Nobody from the Warren Commission was in Dealey Plaza on that day
either..thankfully Abraham Zapruder was there
Cheers
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
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Americans are stupid.
The men behind the curtain did it.
Oswald became the pasty.
Stupid Americans can't get anything right.
They're hopelessly brainwashed .....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Nov 17, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
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Oswald was played by numerous factions and interests, all of whom failed to recognize how mentally unstable he was.
The assassination was all his doing, a testament to the efficacy of Marine Sniper School.
It is why snipers even today play such a critical role in military operations. A single man can wreak havoc and cause the disruption of large group maneuvers.
As lovers of America we naturally don't want to accept that the fabric of our society is so fragile that it can be so severely rent by a single faulty thread, so we bolster the flaw with imaginary villains.
It is not to say that there were no other villains about. There were plenty. But they played no active role.
Although the operations of the Italian military in the twentieth century have been the stuff of comic opera, the Italians still make some pretty good guns and cars.
This would explain why the military surplus Carcano 6.5 mm that Oswald bought shot so accurately since it was virtually new when he got it, having likely never been fired and only dropped once,..
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Nov 17, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
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Mobsters
Carlos Marcello and Santo Trafficante
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go-B
climber
Hebrews 1:3
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Nov 17, 2013 - 02:57pm PT
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Anyone see this...
JFK: THE SMOKING GUN
http://www.reelz.com/smokinggun/
It states that the agent grabbed the rifle in the follow up car when he heard a gun shot and accidentally fired off a round that killed JFK when the car lunged forward while braking!
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Nov 17, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
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Not a mystery at all any more. Ever since I saw a show that recreated the shot exactly... same gun, same car, same distance with ballistic dummies... it's been thoroughly debunked in my mind. It was a lone man.
This is coming from someone who was a die-hard believer in the conspiracy at one point BTW.
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