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B Money
Boulder climber
san diego
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 15, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
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A new fire just broke in Mountain Center (243 and 74). South of Idyllwild. From all the reports im hearing, already over 1000 acres and structures already lost. Its in a canyon system that could most definitely run all the way to town.
Just a heads up if you're there or headed that way!
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jul 15, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
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Saw the smoke driving into OC from Blythe this afternoon; it was big. This could get really bad. There is so much downed wood up there from the pine bark beetle infestation. Saw five choppers flying in formation to the west. Not sure what they were up to; did not look like tankers, maybe they dropped off some hot shots.
edit: also saw smoke coming from the canyon just east of snow creek. not sure if it was a new fire or just the smoke coming over the ridge and being pushed down,
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Alois
Trad climber
Idyllwild, California
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Jul 15, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
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The fire is south of Idyllwild burning in Apple Canyon, Bonita Vista and Fleming Ranch area. The flames run in NW to SE direction and so far the fire is missing Idyllwild. Things could change if wind direction changes, but so far the town is in no danger. About 1,000 acres have burned as of 8 PM Pacific. I'm told that Mountain Center looks like a war zone. It might not be such a great idea to climb on Tahquitz tomorrow, the smoke is pretty thick..
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jul 15, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
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The smoke I saw at 4 PM looked like it was from a much bigger fire.
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HighGravity
Trad climber
Southern California
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Jul 16, 2013 - 12:11am PT
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I'm watching it from work and it's huge! For anyone wanting to climb Tahquitz, I've heard Hwy 243 is closed to all non residence. So I wouldn't drive up without checking the CHP or Cal trans website.
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B Money
Boulder climber
san diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2013 - 10:48am PT
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Blew up to over 5000 acres as of 6:30 this morning. Im getting some photos back from our crew we sent out last night; looks heavy. Gonna be a long battle. Its in 2 main creeks, and talking with some people that have fought there before, there is really only one place to stop it. If not, its going all the way.
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Deekaid
climber
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Jul 16, 2013 - 10:55am PT
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What a disaster! Anything on cause yet or link for info?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jul 16, 2013 - 11:46am PT
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It's dry, dry dry this year. Streams that usually have at least a little water all year are completely dry. I've got a bad feeling about the 2013 fire season.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 16, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
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Yer gonna burn, THEN yer gonna die!
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John M
climber
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Jul 16, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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It went from 1000 acres last night to 4700 acres this morning. I hope that they get a handle on it soon. 10 percent contained and 650 people already working it.
http://inciweb.org/incident/3516/
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Karen
Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
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Jul 16, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
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Is Valley Center at risk?
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B Money
Boulder climber
san diego
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
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Latest update has it now at 8000 acres. New evacuations ordered for Andreas Canyon.
Putting up a pretty good plum right now. Rapid spread through both brush and timber.
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Deekaid
climber
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Jul 16, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
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if it started right off the highway maybe a cigarette from a passing car... you see people do it all the time
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Deekaid
climber
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Jul 16, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
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really is a shame such an awesome area
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 16, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
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I hope this gets under control, fast. The forest above Humber Park is about 50% old dead trees.....
if it started right off the highway maybe a cigarette from a passing car... you see people do it all the time
Most new cars sold in America no longer have ashtrays!!!!!!
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Jul 16, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
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man i live in timber country,
and we dumb f*#ks deny inherent processes
their rightful place.
i hate to see good forest burn, i do, and i have.
all of my assets are perched on
the sulfer end of a match
with ignition and
energy conversion potential greater than
the many atomic bombs
that decorate mankind's fateful birthday cake.
let it go, folks.
just get out of its way.
then go in afterwards,
and forge a new understanding.
maybe a grape vinyard while the forest recovers.
best.
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jstan
climber
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Jul 16, 2013 - 06:01pm PT
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15:00 PDT 7/16/13
http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3516/
Incident Overview
General Fire Info:
The Mountain Fire started at 1:43 PM on July 15, 2013 near the junction of Highway 243 and Highway 74. It is currently burning east of the Mountain Center and Apple Canyon Areas. It is burning in very steep and rugged terrain in the southern porion of the San Jacinto Wilderness along the Desert Divide and in the Apple Canyon and Bonita Vista Areas.
A Type 1 Incident Management Team has been orderd to assume command of the fire at 1800 hrs on 7/16/2013.
Trail Closures:
The Pacific Crest Trail is closed from Highway 74 north to Saddle Junction. All of the trails connection to the Pacific Crest Trail are closed as well, including South Ridge Trail, Carumba Trail, Spitler Peak Trail, Fobes Trail, and Cedar Springs.
Individuals or groups with overnight or advance day-use permits into the San Jacinto Wilderness is advised to call the San Jacinto Ranger Station at 909-382-2921.
Road Closures and Evacuations:
Highway 243 is closed between Saunders Meadow Road and the junction of Highway 74. There are mandatory Evacuations for the Living Free Animal Sanctuary, The Fleming Ranch, Bonita Vista Community (20 homes), and the Zen Mountain Center.
Mandatory evacuation orders are in place for Andreas Canyon Club, 24 homes south of Palm Canyon Drive
Evacuation Centers:
Hemet High School, 41701 E. Stetson Ave, Hemet
Hamilton High School, 57430 Mitchell Road, Anza - Can accept small animals
Large and Small Animals can be taken to Lake Hemet Campground in Garner Valley
Small animals can be brought to the SanJacinto Animal Shelter, 581 S. Grand Ave, San Jacinto CA
Basic Information
Incident Type Wildfire
Cause Under Investigation
Date of Origin Monday July 15th, 2013 approx. 01:43 PM
Location Mountain Center
Incident Commander Fulcher/felix
Current Situation
Total Personnel 650
Size 8,000 acres
Percent Contained 10%
Fuels Involved
Chapparal and Timber
Fire Behavior
Rapid Fire Spread through timber and chapparal.
Significant Events
Evacuations in the upper Apple Canyon Area.
Outlook
Planned Actions
Continued direct attack where feasible, utilize air resources
Growth Potential
Extreme
Terrain Difficulty
High
Current Weather
Wind Conditions 10 mph SW
Temperature 70 degrees
Humidity 24%
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Jacemullen
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 16, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
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"Growth Potential: Extreme"
Scary sh#t, hopefully too much of the PCT doesn't get burned. That's already a pretty rough little stretch.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jul 16, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
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Vamos a superar.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jul 16, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
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Growth Potential
Extreme
Yeah. If they can't control it fast this has the potential to get really ugly.
I'm still wondering about the smoke I saw coming from the canyon on the north side of the peak east of snow creek. Inversion? I did not see any flames but it sure looked like a hot spot.
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