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Cragman
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June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 30, 2013 - 06:20am PT
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The top ten reasons you'll know you are now taken care of by Obama's brilliant "affordable" system...
10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.
(9) Directions to your doctor's office include "Take a left when you enter the trailer park."
(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.
(7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.
(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is "an apple a day."
(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.
(4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges," is not a typographical error.
(3) The only expense covered 100% is "Embalming."
(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.
AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN:
(1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and Super Glue
"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him,
better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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McCfly
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Jun 30, 2013 - 08:06am PT
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Romenycare going strong and working great in Massachusetts ;)
Just saying so far so good. The coverage and care are better than when I payed $550 a month for top tier Blue Cross Blue Shield package.
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Jun 30, 2013 - 08:30am PT
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I try not to post on non-climbing threads, but as someone who is getting ready to work another shift in the Emergency Department, I can't keep my mouth shut.
So Cragman, do you prefer the health care system we had before Obamacare?
And if the Government isn't going to take care of the 26 year old trauma victim without Health Insurance, who is? You and I, we the people?
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goatboy smellz
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Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jun 30, 2013 - 10:05am PT
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Cragman as a self appointed Christian I would think you
would be more forgiving of those in need than judgemental.
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Gene
climber
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Jun 30, 2013 - 10:16am PT
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Sheesh! Can't anyone take a joke around here anyhow?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 30, 2013 - 10:21am PT
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America, when it comes to issues like:
Universal health care for it's citizens
The death penalty
Incarceration for minor drug offenses
is
no better than a Third World Country
at least
Obama is trying
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Jun 30, 2013 - 10:26am PT
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Cragman do you trust the insurance companies???
I worked for State Farm Insurance right out of college through a temporary employment service. I answered phones in the "Catastrophe Center" for property damage due to catastrophic storms like hurricanes or earthquakes. I took the initial claim and assigned the adjusters. I was the point of contact from that point forward if their was a problem.
As SOP (standard operating procedure) every claim was initially denied. When the insured called the company again I was where the runaround began...I would schedule the adjuster to visit the property owner again...I can't tell you the number of times I had to deal with irate property owners who had paid insurance for 30 years without filing a claim that had claims denied as SOP...Be ready to fight, scratch, claw for every nickel even if you are entitled to it...they want you to get frustrated and give up on your claim as SOP...
Is that what you want to do when your injured????
Single Payer Healthcare is what we need not insurance companies dictating what healthcare we NEED!!
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 11:03am PT
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I see you read your email today.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 11:41am PT
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Only about his ignorance.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 11:50am PT
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I know 6 people in Canada who are very satisfied with their medical system.
Guess that little anecdote pretty much wipes out your anecdote, Ron.
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Gimp
Trad climber
Grand Junction
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Jun 30, 2013 - 11:56am PT
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Fully support the concept of universal healthcare, however, designing a program that essentially funnels large amounts of tax dollars directly to a for profit industry with an extremely poor track record of really providing healthcare is a mistake IMO.
The health insurance industry should have been taken out of the loop.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 11:58am PT
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"....designing a program that essentially funnels large amounts of tax dollars directly to a for profit industry with an extremely poor track record of really providing healthcare is a mistake IMO."
True, though I'm not sure the current system isn't essentially doing precisely the same thing.
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
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I know several Managers of Carson Tahoe Hospital. That hospital is currently sweating bullets over whats to come. EVEN worse is that they DONT YET KNOW what will happen to its ability to continue serving the community.
That's because your state government won't decide whether or not to adopt the AHCA.
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John M
climber
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
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What you get when you have a system that reams the living daylights out of people who are too sick to defend themselves is a bunch of people who are happy for whatever change they can get.
By being insensitive to these peoples plight, the republicans helped create the climate that has given us the new system.
So pat yourself on the back Dean. And welcome to hell. you helped create it.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
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Soooooo worthy of reposting to this thread.....
From the recent 'healthcare quandary' thread...
Ron advised:
"what ive been doing. Going without any insurance. Do as the Millions of illegals do daily here. Just go to the ER get fixed and ignore the bills."
HDDJ:
"The irony here is palpable. You're soaking off of taxpayers and those of us who either have insurance or work in the healthcare industry by forcing us to absorb your healthcare costs while complaining about the efforts to fix this broken system. Obamacare helps ensure that deadbeats like you both pay your share into the system that supports you and allows the healthcare providers who care for you to get reimbursed for their efforts. If you like emulating "illegals" then just take it all the way and "self-deport."
Next time you hear someone complain about high health care costs, make sure you take credit for your efforts."
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sempervirens
climber
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
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I'll bite...
Obama care is not single payer healthcare, right? Agreed? Interesting then that its being used as a reason to discredit a single payer system. The anti-governmint crowd hasn't even realized this. Nor have they realized that their anti-gov., anti-socialist, freedom-loving, flag-waving opinion has been fabricated for them by people who are being very well cared for by the government. Is that anyone's idea of democracy?
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
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they can't. Isn't that sad for them?
Well, you passive aggressively brought up the subject. Most of us know your political leanings, so a 'jokey' comment is bound to bring in dissenters. You knew that.
Don't play the pariah here, you're better than that.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
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Waitaminit...I thought this thread was about Obamacare!?
I've been duped.
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
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Ron you just posted yesterday that the bears are doing great...fat and happy are the bears from your viewpoint??? Now american society and the bears are similar??
Hunting and killing problem bears (I agree with)...but how about hunting and killing problem humans??? Who decides who a problem human is??
I bet the insurance companies think it would be anyone who didn't pay thier premium or healthcare bill...I think I need to get some good camoflage....
sick and twisted I know but intended to be a humorous post...hope cragman is laughing anyway :)!!!
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 30, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
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Anybody wanna take bets on how long it'll be before Ron gets insured? And then uses it?
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