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the Fet
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 17, 2006 - 12:41am PT
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Does anybody have or remember this cover? I can't remember the pariticular mag. It's a shot of Lynn from above at the top of the Nose on the FFA 1993-1994. I'd love to see that shot again.
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Tarbuster
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Jun 17, 2006 - 01:08am PT
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Here's the R&I Version:
I Recall Climbing as having the "Free At Last" Cover
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TradIsGood
Trad climber
Gunks end of country
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Jun 17, 2006 - 07:24am PT
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A rare picture of parking lot #58...
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the Fet
climber
Earth
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 17, 2006 - 09:10am PT
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Thanks Tarbuster. That certainly is a fantastic shot.
Maybe that's the one I was thinking of. The climbing one isn't nearly as good as the R&I photo.
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bachar
Trad climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA
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Jun 17, 2006 - 02:07pm PT
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"Free at Last" ....gee I remember that - I took the photo!
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jun 17, 2006 - 03:23pm PT
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far more more important than lynn's free ascent is the fact that i'm the ghey looking dude on that concrete retaining wall.
proud.
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T2
climber
Cardiff by the sea
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Jun 17, 2006 - 05:18pm PT
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Not only is it a retaining wall, your wearing lycra. Hahaha!! Your right, that is Proud.
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Tarbuster
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Jun 18, 2006 - 12:42am PT
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Ouch!
Doesn't Lynny look, well, almost pedestrian there above parking lot #58,
Eh?
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 18, 2006 - 12:48am PT
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They always flip the photo upside down.
How many people have been at this location and looked down?
The magazine cover is trying to sensationalize the atmosphere.
This is more natural looking?
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Wonder
climber
WA
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Jun 18, 2006 - 01:03am PT
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Thank you, bagawan!
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Jun 18, 2006 - 01:25am PT
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Thanks Werner.
I remember the view, but I was aiding the Harding Bolts.
I was always confused by that photo, trying to remember the location?
Could someone post the Patagonia Catalog photo of Lynn finishing Insomnia.
Juan
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Tarbuster
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Jun 18, 2006 - 01:44am PT
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yes werner,
why that's the correct photo orientation after all.
i think the hair style now looks to be a bee-hive.
ya know, a la B-52.
hmmm. not so hip in those days.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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Jun 18, 2006 - 01:55am PT
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LOL. I saw the B52's at the Country Club in the Valley.
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Spinmaster K-Rove
Trad climber
Stuck Under the Kor Roof
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Jun 18, 2006 - 03:53am PT
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It is more natural, but flipping it upside down instills a sense of vertigo. I've done it a few times with my own slides because it kind of adds to the disorienting feeling of what its like up there sometimes. You can call it sensationalist, but last time I checked that is how those guys earned their $4.50 an issue.
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Tahoe climber
Trad climber
Austin, TX to South LakeTahoe, CA
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Jun 18, 2006 - 06:35pm PT
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I definitely liked Werner's version better.
-Aaron
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JAK
Sport climber
Central NC
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Jun 18, 2006 - 07:08pm PT
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At risk of asking a (really) stupid question - does "free climbing" to whereever it is she climbed mean that she did this entire climb without benefit of ropes?? If so, my esteem for her accomplishment will have plummeted big time.
Nope.
"Free Climbing" is climbing done using only the body for upward mobility. Protection (rope, nuts, cams, tricams, hexes, etc.) is used and extremely common. Lynn did the Nose on a rope.
"Free Soloing" is climbing without a rope or any protective gear.
Lynn Hill's free climb ascent of the Nose route on El Cap was a big deal because up until then it was thought to be an aid route only - that is, ascending some portions of the route using gear and not your hands and feet was necessary and unavoidable. Lynn showed that that was not the case.
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JAK
Sport climber
Central NC
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Jun 18, 2006 - 09:12pm PT
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"Is there anything about being a female which would offer an advantage in this regard e.g. less weight to pull up even given less upper body strength or perhaps smaller hands to fit into crevices etc. Seems surprising that she did this before any of the men did but good for her!"
Females are almost always better climbers than men - they're just a much smaller percentage of the climbing community.
Firstly, take it as a given that technique is a far better weapon against gravity than brute strength. Women (under most circumstances have a lower center of mass than men, and are more flexible. They also, yes, tend to weigh less. The only advantage men have in climbing is typically greater upper-body strength, and that really only comes into play on power routes with heavy overhang.
Being told you "climb like a girl" is a compliment.
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Tarbuster
climber
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Jun 18, 2006 - 10:20pm PT
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Helen Reddy.
Wow.
big blast from the past; right up there with Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs...
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Tarbuster
climber
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Jun 18, 2006 - 11:30pm PT
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gee,
who won the match? I do not recall.
they were marketable celebs for sure; the tennis and running boom were fairly simultaneous and they rode that big wave.
remember the book, something like "inner tennis"?
the whole yabo story; hmmm, maybe another thread.
a good handfull of us on this forum had close experience with him...
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jun 18, 2006 - 11:55pm PT
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no doubt,
yet the tragic element attends most lives in one form or another.
there is a heartfelt sense of yabo's contribution and place in the scheme; our scheme.
insight wouldn't necessarily characterize the gain in understanding yabo. perhaps the simple force of good story and the tell of a loved one's struggle would be enough.
he led a colorfull if tragi-comic life at times. more than most of us and much to our recurrent concern, he cast off into the un-tethered myth of the itinerant climbing bum. he put himself way out there on the edge, partially as an aspect of intense communion, somewhat as an act of self destruction, nearly always to the point of raising our eyebrows...
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