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10b4me
Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 14, 2013 - 02:28pm PT
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If the weather stays like this, I say May 1st
but yet Werner says
The govt. is broke.
You all have to do it by hand as volunteers.
Are ya up for it?
Bring your shovels and start shoveling .....
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Mar 14, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
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I'm with Werner. Every year, the NPS plows the Tioga Road to get it open earlier than it would be if all they did was wait for natural snow melt. Unless the snow melts on its own at 10,000 feet by May 1, the road won't open without plowing. We no longer have the Tioga Pass webcam, but I seriously doubt that Dana Meadows, not to mention some parts east and west thereof, will be sufficiently snow free to open the Road then.
While the government is far from broke,, the politics and theater of increasing spending less than what the Administration desires will cause any possible public inconvenience to happen, just to make points with the public.
John
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
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I'm beginning my pre packing/planning so I'll be Ready. :D
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John M
climber
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
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I would like to have the pass open, but we also need snow. This will be the second year in a row with well below averages if we don't have a wet spring.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
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The govt. is broke.
 The government is not broke, they just choose not to collect taxes from the wealthy, and are currently not choosing to pay for everyday expenses.
I blame the republicons as they are the ones who want to get rid of all government and completely privatize everything.
Tioga Toll Road coming to a National park near you soon!!!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
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It's not a toll road? Seems like it to me.
Why do we pay taxes? So the government can hire someone to collect Tolls.
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elAndy
Trad climber
El Portal, CA
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Mar 14, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
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Mostly snow free roads.... bike access only.... limited patrol.... sounds kinda nice to me.
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Mar 14, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
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+1 elAndy, no tools ,bike acess, ........nice
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
California
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Mar 15, 2013 - 12:24am PT
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California is about to return to a more normal winter pattern with big shots of precip on the way. Maybe Memorial Day.
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Mar 15, 2013 - 01:22am PT
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May 16th..
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Mar 15, 2013 - 09:25am PT
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I hope bergbryce is right......change is expected next week.
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bob
climber
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Mar 15, 2013 - 09:31am PT
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This Springtime love that we've been experiencing is great and all, but damn we need moisture!!!!! BAD.
Here's to a dumper of a Spring!
Bob J.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
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Mar 15, 2013 - 10:26am PT
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too early to tell yet, spring usually dumps. Skied great powder in May a few years.
We had a fake spring this past week in the Teton's, I knew it wouldn't last, snow and colder temps are coming back this week.
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Adamame
climber
Santa Cruz
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Mar 15, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
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I think its about time they remove Tioga Road and return the area to a more natural state.
Are they still planning on starting the multi-year nightmare of repaving/widening project this summer? Its going to be a good few years to skip Tuolumne with all that chaos.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Mar 15, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
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Adamame, "Skip Tuolumne"?
Why would one do that? Let the Turons have the place to themselves? No way. I plan on my best season ever up there.
I love this place, the Eastern Sierra. I have done some training and studying to make this my best summer ever. I pick up tons of trash on my non work days.
Can't wait to get back home. :DD lynnie
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Mar 15, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
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doubt that winter's quite done yet.......heh heh heh
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ruppell
climber
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Mar 15, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
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doubt that winter's quite done yet.......heh heh heh
It's done on Wednesday. lol
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John M
climber
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Mar 15, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
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Reading the parks website to try and figure out if they will be doing road construction this summer is an exercise in insanity. I think it says they plan to, but don't really know.
Anyone know?
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10b4me
Boulder climber
takin' the scenic route to Montana
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2013 - 11:02am PT
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It would take them years to get an EIA done
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Mar 16, 2013 - 11:25am PT
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Big snow fall in the spring...? Those usually happen in big winters as i remember and this hasn't been a big winter being 65% of normal on precip....Since january our forecasters have been sprayng about the next storm being a big one...The word draught is a more accurate description as the days get longer and the temps climb higher...
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