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Matt
Trad climber
it's all turtles, all the way dooowwwwwnn!!!!!
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 3, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
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AKA the sledgehammering video?
Sorry I have not been watching and don't want to read through that whole thread to see if there is a mention of it, can someone help me out? Kinda curious what his public reaction is going to be, aren't you?
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donald perry
Trad climber
kearny, NJ
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See the comments on the youtube.com videos.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Darn you Matt. You shun home for months, then materialize and present yourself out of the blue...expecting a Cliffs Notes report on the chiseling calamity...
...well sorry mister! You're going to be required to read the thread.
Or maybe you can read Jon Krakauer's upcoming book, Under the Banner of Chipping: A story of Violent Rock Modeling. (I wouldn't expect great accuracy or focus...but Mr Krakauer knows sensationalism sells books)
This I can tell you: Ivan's mother tears up whenever her son's name is mentioned...and the cliffs themselves are completely shattered over what he has become...
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Dead Point Magazine has had his phone number, place of business and home address on their video comments so he can be harassed publically, and youwant him to make a statement! Lol. Ethics police climbers are a$$holes
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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I don't think anyone said they "want him to make a comment." Matt said he was "kinda curious." I am too... I'm curious if he has more remorse or indignation or simply doesn't give a fuk. Not that it matters, just curious. I'm also curious if Ondra gets any bitches.
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WBraun
climber
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Ivan Greene don't give a flyin fuk what you people say here or anywhere.
That's why he uses a sledge hammer and the perry tool .......
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Which brings up the old adage, "Don't teach a pig to sing. It annoys the pig and wastes your time".
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Don Paul
Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
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This is Ivan's big chance to be famous. Either become the founder of modern day chipping, or beg forgiveness for his sins. Crawling and hiding under a rock is just missing an opportunity.
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donald perry
Trad climber
kearny, NJ
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I meant the posts made by the people that are hosting the videos.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Yeah it's hard to tell what that other thread is even about anymore, I was under the impression Donald P was writing the chipping guide? Not krakauer? Very confusing, I'll try to pay more attention.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Not a lot of craftsmanship in evidence in that chipping video -- he looked like Bam-Bam on crack -- but a small amount of this stuff went on at Woodson in the 80's. And as has been pointed out, in Josh and the valley as well. Today it's mostly forgotten and rarely, if ever mentioned.
Funny how the passage of time cools the jets and it all just fades away. In addition to the brutal hack job that seems to be going on (for what looks to be a chossfest problem, no less) the individual in question has been a pathological spotlight seeker at times and so the commentary on this will be al the more biting and sarcastic. It all adds up to a run-of-the-mill slagfest -- one we'll all have forgetten in a few months. I'm not an apoligist, mind you. I was physically cringing when I saw that vid -- thinking to myself -- WHAT THE F*#K?!! Might as well have used a jackhammer.
Personally, I think that crap that Ken Nichols has pulled in that part of the country is far more odious and loathsome.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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He should be able to boulder his way out from under that rock he's hiding under, right? Even without a sledge.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Have I missed something? Besides the last train and besides life.
So is it a matter of "pull up the anchor and Chips Away?"
I guess I'll have to watch the video, just out of curiosity. The only thing I have ever chipped is my tooth.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Or maybe you can read Jon Krakauer's upcoming book, Under the Banner of Chipping: A story of Violent Rock Modeling. (I wouldn't expect great accuracy or focus...but Mr Krakauer knows sensationalism sells books)
Or you can read the Book of Mormon, which is WAY more accurate. You even get your own planet!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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No, Ivan hasn't responded. See: Sociopathic Behavior.
You won't get that redemption from him likely, no more than Lance fessed when 'caught'. If your ego is big enough to see you this far, it'll see you to the grave.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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I saw his music vid, he better keep his day job!
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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^^^ Wow.... jesus that was bad.
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weezy
climber
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Book of Mormon
those mormons...they knew how to chip
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