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Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Jan 7, 2013 - 10:30am PT

Hi Prod,


You can tell the new ones.

They are sweaty and cant stop talking about it!



Its to early to be able to get those stats.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jan 7, 2013 - 10:38am PT
They come in all sizes and shapes but I'll bet a good description of the majority would be:
white
male
bottom 30th percentile in education and wage earning
confused about a changiing America were qualifications are becoming more important than race in determing one's place in society
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Jan 7, 2013 - 10:43am PT
Well, over the past couple weeks I've had probably ~10 new people who had never touched firearms before suddenly go out and buy something and then come to me for some pointers. Usually it's the other way around and it's too bad since many of these people wasted a lot of money.

Real enthusiasts would probably shy away from the panic buying out there now. It's completely insane in CT. Everything is sold and backordered.... I had some guy in an umarked van try to sell people high-capacity mags/ammo outside of a local shop(like 50 feet from the door). He was taking credit cards too! Wtf? There's a psuedo black market already before any laws have been passed. There's a lot of hording going on too.

It's simply fear in this country. Rumors of more restrictive legislation are just a small part of it. Economically and socially we're circling the drain and I think people know it to some degree and are just plain scared.

Lots of women getting their permits more than I've EVER seen before.

The demographic is not what I'd expect. A lot of higher-end wage earners getting into it (Dr's, lawyers, etc)... Of course this is just what I see in CT...
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 7, 2013 - 10:45am PT
Haven't even been shooting since all this stuff. Too expensive. Oh well.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 7, 2013 - 10:48am PT
Short term; this is hilarious. I stocked up years ago.

Long term; this is scary, glad I stocked up years ago.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:40am PT
If it wasn't so serious, I'd find it funny that the ones buying those guns are probably many of the same people who are complaining that government taxes are crippling them.

TE

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:45am PT
Strapped women are sexy.
10b4me

Boulder climber
Somewhere on 395
Jan 7, 2013 - 11:51am PT

You can tell the new ones.

They are sweaty and cant stop talking about it!


And usually end up shooting themselves
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
A gun injury? Is that like pinching your finger in the action or dropping it on your toe? Perhaps the blister on your thumb from reloading.

Otherwise I'd tend to think of it as getting shot instead of "injury"
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:34pm PT
Can't say Prod, but the government knows what race they all are. They have made it mandatory that you disclose it on the FFL form you fill out. But they ain't talkin'.
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
It's the last line of that article that annoys me.
I hope that people who make the decision to purchase a gun store it safely," McGinness said. "And make it damned difficult for someone to steal it."

When "hope" is the best that a Law Enforcement Officer can do, the law has failed. Hundreds of thousands of guns are stolen every year, with most jurisdictions placing no responsibility on owners to prevent or even report that theft. Those owners may be law-abiding, but I cannot call them responsible.

Homeowners appear to have more legal and liability requirements to prevent unauthorized access to their swimming pools than to their guns.

TE

SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jan 7, 2013 - 12:59pm PT

Donini +1
Michelle

Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:05pm PT



I do know some folks currently stocking up. I would, but I'm broke.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
Donini:
They come in all sizes and shapes but I'll bet a good description of the majority would be:
white
male
bottom 30th percentile in education and wage earning
confused about a changiing America were qualifications are becoming more important than race in determing ones place in society

Are you trying to tell us you bought a gun? :-)
GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Gun sales will pan out to be heavy weighted towards first time buyers.

Shooting enthusiast won't pay these crazy prices and know pricing will come back down.
However.... Enthusiast will buy all the ammo they can find only because they're not sure when/where they will find more!

I know people who shoot in competitions that burn up over 1,000 rounds a month and are now using up their reserve ammo because they can't find the powder, bullets, or brass they need to reload.

I was at a gun store in Elk Grove on Thursday. Customers lined up out the door and down the sidewalk. I asked and less than half were first timers. About 1/3 were female. Half were buying AR10's (on back order) others were all hand gun except one woman buying a home defense shotgun.

I (the enthusist) was picking up a Jewel trigger to replace one I wore out.
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
Buying a new trigger?

You must go on so many mass shootings.




About the 6 month wait on suppressors (Plus however long else it takes for the paper work to go through only to fail), there is no need for a suppressor.

30 round magazines, who cares? Three 10 rounders are just as deadly as one 30 rounder.


michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
Peltors. ;)
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
30 round magazines, who cares? Three 10 rounders are just as deadly as one 30 rounder.

That doesn't seem right. Would you say 30 1-rounders are just as deadly as one 30-rounder? If not, then what's the cut off where larger mags have (as you appear to claim) no advantage?

I'm not a gun guy so my logic may be flawed--just asking.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jan 7, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
No Ron.

If a shooter has to perform three times as many mag changes, that gives an un-armed potential victim three times more chances to rush the shooter, and dis-arm him during one of his mag changes.

Arming folks won't work, because armed potential victims are much more likely to shoot themselves, or shoot a member of their own family, during an actual emergency.

Get it?
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jan 7, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
No Ron.

If a shooter has to perform three times as many mag changes, that gives an un-armed potential victim three times more chances to rush the shooter, and dis-arm him during one of his mag changes.

Arming folks won't work, because armed potential victims are much more likely to shoot themselves, of a member of their own family.

Get it?

See I am not a gun guy and now I'm even more confused!
So unarmed potential victims (5 year old kids and elementary school teachers in this case, but could be anyone in general) may be able to defeat the shooter, but armed potential victims wouldn't? Because they're much more likely to shoot themselves?
Is it really true that someone shooting a gun is more likely to shoot themselves than their intended target (not talking about suicide)? How would that even be possible (again not talking about suicide) unless you mistakenly held the gun turned around, which seems unlikely?

Maybe Chaz's post was sarcastic and I just didn't get it?
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