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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 31, 2012 - 10:25pm PT
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I spend a lot more time playing guitar than climbing these days. I'm considering pros/cons of a new fangled multi-effects pedal vs. a board made up of separate pedals. I'm looking for recommendations, comments, warnings, stories, advise etc. If going old school basic pedalboard what would be your top reccs for pedals? Am I going to die?
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Edwardmw
climber
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Aug 31, 2012 - 10:41pm PT
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Me to, not really climbing, playing a ton of guitar. Boss single pedals, you really may only need 1 or 2. The Boss Digital Delay-DD7 and the Boss Distortion DS1. That's it, then your good to go.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Aug 31, 2012 - 11:02pm PT
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delay is good, vibrato might be added as well. I always think first chord on Dark Side, that different Em strummed from the top. The chord is cool, but the pedal is key. I use an old boss wah wah with the vibrato so I can set the speed of the vibrato with my foot.
It's not really needed, you can usually get close to tempo by turning a knob on a regular pedal.
Those danelectros are cheap so you can buy lots. Then they break, so you can buy more.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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tom woods should join The Eastside 5.
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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
Squamish
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+1 for the Boss Distortion pedal. I love that sexy beast.
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slodog
Trad climber
ontario canada
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get a good tube amp and dont bother with digital guitar pedal junk-
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Hendo1
Trad climber
Toronto
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A big issue with some multi-effect units is "latency" -- you step on the switch to change the effect and there's a slight lag in it happening. Not a big deal in most human affairs but crucial in music, based as it is on tiny divisions of time.
I do have a Zoom unit which doesn't have the latency problem, but I don't use it much. It simply has too many bells and whistles. (Who uses a ring modulator?) It's useful for recording but a bit of a pain to use live.
I've bought and sold zillions of pedals over the years and have reached the point where I prefer to keep it simple -- a good amp and a few pedals as needed: stage tuner, delay, tremolo/vibrato, crunch (a germanium fuzz, in my case).
And when I do use an effect there's only a little touch of it. Too much of an effect and it generally doesn't blend well with the rest of the instruments.
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Edwardmw
climber
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I agree with you guys, use a pedal, maybe two, just to slightly enhance your sound, do not over do it with a bunch of pedals on 10.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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ron, yr being way too kind.
i'm not really gigging these days, and i'm happy with my guitars, and my favorite amp is a really, really rich octal, so i'm pretty much plugging straight in. sometimes i chain another amp. i have a splitter, so when i'm getting fancy i'll run a 2nd amp (i have a really clean old ga-25), so the octal sort of becomes my wet signal and the cleaner amp is the dry. but typically no pedals other than the splitter.
i still have a seventies mxr distortion pedal but havent touched it in many years. i did pick up a fuller supertrem for occasional gigs where i might have to be fighting a drummer/pa issues and need to use a bigger amp that's less rich. i mostly keep the supatrem dialed way down and use it more like a really light presence/delay pedal. mike's pedals are great-- the build quality is amazing, and the supatrem is truly full bypass. built like a tank, too.
if i had the dough i'd buy one of his echoplexes. ive never loved spring reverb much less digital. http://www.fulltone.com/pedals
if i was going to drop the dough, i'd also hunt down an old dearmond trem-tol:
http://www.danformosa.com/dearmond.html
but i can't see taking either of those out to some gig at a dive bar.
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deepnet
Boulder climber
San Diego
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Tone is in the finger tips.
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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pedals are aid! pedals are sportclimbing! real men plug straight in!
an oldskool pedalboard=a cable & a volume knob!
heh
it'd be pretty tough to be working regularly in cover bands w/o a serious pedal board. probably even easier if you also had a modeling amp. hard enough to get gigs. getting seriously purist means yr playing mostly in yr living room, so i'm not going to slam folks running lots of boxes.
there's also a real nor-cal scene where i see really good players who have consciously chosen to run really cheap guitars into very vanilla and often solid-state amps and then invest most of their dough in pedals and modelers.
even pete anderson has switched over to ampfarm for his studio recording, and billy gibbons's live rig is modeled.
pedals are pretty personal. sorta like choss.
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Forget the pedals; you definitely need one of these for your hippie music…
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Edwardmw
climber
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Seems like quite a few guitarists posting here, anyone care to post up audio or video of their guitar playing? I would love to hear it.
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mountain dog
Trad climber
over the hills and far away
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Stick with it Locker. You have potential.
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Iron Mtn.
Trad climber
Riverside, Ca.
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If you are not playing in a live situation a multi effects is the way to go.
I know some folks who have been pleased with the Boss ME 50.
I wouldn't mind having one for home use myself....
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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i dont have any recordings converted-- i havent recorded since four tracks were replaced by computers. so if any of you have recs for a decent interface-- mike to mac -- pitch them out there.
and wade, w/o knowing your guitar/amp combos and the application, it's hard to make recs. i have very little experience with the multis-- only ever used them in the store. when i was using pedals, one of the things i learned quickly was that you can't always predict how any given pedal is going to interact with any particular tube amp much less with other pedals.
one of the deals with pedal boards is that change in the order of the chain can make dramatic changes in effects farther down the line. moving the flanger over one box can have ripple effects. lots of folks learn to play the pedals and do changeups in the chain periodically for specific effects.
the more you add, the less predictable things can get. that's one of the reasons that serious pedalheads often play solidstate amps or modern amps with effects loops or else spend hours configuring different chains for different tube amps.
the cheap pedals typically don't have real bypass, either, so if you chain a bunch of them by the time the signal gets to the preamp it's already wet, even if the pedals are off.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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My favorite sound was my Les Paul direct into my turned up Princeton Reverb. A touch of Reverb (3). Since my amp didn't have a master volume I would use a Boss Distortion DS1 for lower volume distortion.
Now it's a Strat through a Pandora Box into a practice amp. fun to try out lots of fun burp and fart digital noises while sitting in my office.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2012 - 08:38pm PT
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klk- strictly living room jamming through a variety of lo watt amps-vox actv-70's vibro champ, 60's champion 600, pignose-with a variety of mostly fender guitars and a lap steel- thought a looping pedal might be fun..some of the hippie music I've been playing doesn't sound right clean...like Satisfaction for example. there's no way they're getting that sound plugged straight in....or maybe there is but I'm not getting it with the bedroom amps...
thanks for the info gents, keep it coming
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