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Chris McNamara
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 16, 2006 - 11:11am PT
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here is my semi annual appeal for more cool climbing stories and photos... less slander:
i used to read the slander threads... and if i was mentioned i would defend myself etc. but i noticed all this did was bump the threads up higher. in addition, usually the people who make accusations have no credibility, usually are not posting under their real name, and are just trying to get a reaction.
if you need to slander, thats your deal. since this forum is one of the least monitored climbing forums out there, i guess its a pretty good place to get away with a lot. personally, i think everyone should take the energy and time they spend cutting each other down on this forum and put it towards going on rad adventures. and, if you have the time, take some photos of the adventures, write up some cool stories and share them with the rest of us.
for all those that are the sick of the slander on this forum, the only solution i see is to ignore those threads. DONT POST IN THEM. that just bumps them higher. instead, start new threads that have something funny or interesting to share.
and if anyone has real issues to work out with me or anyone else, the best thing to do is contact them directly. the supertopo forum is the LAST place to make real headway on real issues. there are too many people with multiple identities here who are just out to get a reaction. the supertopo forum is a place to post stories, make up stories, entertain each other, share climbing news. and thats about it.
maybe it would be cool if posts that have turned to personal wars and attacks could be highlighted a different color.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Apr 16, 2006 - 11:17am PT
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right on! Don't go dirtying other peoples homes.
Peace
PS the Mussy thread doesn't count. After all, it is just for fun.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 16, 2006 - 11:48am PT
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Finally a voice of reason - hear, hear. Emphatically concur.
Maybe such threads could be put into a Non-Climbing Stuff forum??
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Apr 16, 2006 - 11:51am PT
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Your wish is my command...
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Brutus of Wyde
climber
Old Climbers' Home, Oakland CA
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Apr 16, 2006 - 11:59am PT
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stupid question: How do I attach photos to posts?
Brutus
Edited because I can't spell my own name.
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wildone
climber
right near the beach, boyeee (lord have mercy)
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:03pm PT
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Brutus, like this:
between brackets, insert the address of the picture. You can right click a photo, and highlight the properties value and then paste it.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:04pm PT
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It's a three-step process.
1. You need to use some type of photo program to make your pictures the right dimensions in pixels. The widest photo you can post in a McTopo forum, without wrecking the readability of the post by making the post too "fat", is 700 pixels.
A decent free program you can download from the internet is Irfanview. While it is nowhere as good as Photoshop, it is much quicker and easier to use. Irfanview is still the #1 Best Program for looking at pictures on your home computer, though. Superb for that.
2. You need to upload your completed photo onto a website somewhere. There are a number of websites where you can upload photos for free. One such place is Imageshack.
3. Once you have uploaded your photo, you need to hotlink it to the forum. This you do by taking the URL of the photo, given to you by the website you uploaded it to, and copy and paste this url right into the post. You put an [img ] code in front of this URL, and an [/img ] code after it, and voila.
Note: When you actually hotlink the photo, don't leave the space between the "g" and the "]" - I had to do that so you could read this post!
Hey Brutus, maybe now that you know how to post photos, you can post a bunch of yours, and it'll make the same climbing-life altering change for you, as you loaning me your Russian aiders did for me!
[If you need help, email me, I can further explain]
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:07pm PT
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Yeah, just like that...
Can we get a gallery to upload images to, I have had no luck with the image hosting sites. I learned my last trick years ago, and am not looking to change that. I can email 'em and that's about it.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:28pm PT
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some thoughts:
I like posting trip reports and I like reading trip reports, but the amount of "give and take" is somewhat limited, unless a flame war erupts over the content (e.g. bringmedeath's proud route in the 'Bugs was flamed for apparent next-to-crack bolting). I try to respond positively to trip reports but sometimes it seems trite... a forum is a place for the give-and-take to be offered-and-received... slander is sort of the last resort, but once the ethics debates abate, what is left?
Another point is that not everyone has a place to store photos for hosting, and most that do have limited space (albeit probably large) so at some point old photos will need to make room for new photos. That makes the trip reports digital ephemera as the old ones will likely loose the associated photos.
People photographing and posting most likely loose control over their photos. There is no practical way (or rather no inexpensive practical way) to keep track over who is using what where. Until this is sorted out, the more talented among us will take pause in posting their best. On the other hand, some are so into climbing that it doesn't matter.
Finally, there is a lot of trip reports posted here, and news of new routes in far off places, and even locally. There are even interesting threads on the most banal routes imaginable (like Nutcracker who would think that anything new could be written about that route, but there has). The season in Cali and the west is slow-to-start this year, so the personal stories of climbing are yet to be written. It seems that the despare over the weather has splashed over onto angsting that nothing good is being written or reported... don't think that is true, and certainly the season will be starting in the next couple of weeks.
Off-topic, anyone have the story on the heli that pulled in under the 1500' ground-to-cloud cover yesterday around lunch time, and out a few hours later? That must have been urgent because I can't imagine risking the flight in those weather conditions.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:34pm PT
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Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we had a forum for trip reports, another forum for climbing stuff, and then a third forum for non-climbing stuff where we could stick all the choss? Then we could actually find the stuff we want to find, and avoid the stuff we want to avoid.
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elcapfool
Big Wall climber
hiding in plain sight
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:37pm PT
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I'd rather get a photo gallery
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:37pm PT
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Pete, I just aborted a post about the "separate forum" idea...
another would be to have the pages "indexed" on a separate page so you could choose to go to the posts of interest...
...but all these functions exist in the "search" box, which currently allows everyone to find the articles of interest.
Search on "Trip Report" and see if that brings up what you are interested in reading.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:42pm PT
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Ed you talking here in the Valley?
That was CHP and we had a woman at Clarks Point on the John Muir trail with a broken ankle that we needed hoist capabilities.
They normally come up the 41 corridor but due to cloud coverage and fog had to detour up the 140 merced river corridor.
There was too much snow on the trail and the IC didn't want to do a ground carry out.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:48pm PT
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Werner- yes, the Valley (I shouldn't assume...)
We were sitting up in the clouds on Knob Hill and were amazed to see the chopper in low. Then later, after realizing that the eastern-end of the Valley was the place to be, saw it exiting.
Not a bad climbing day in the Valley all-in-all. But I am always amazed to get sprayed by Horsetail Falls when sitting on Manure Pile Buttress, it was a bit blowly in the afternoon.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 16, 2006 - 12:52pm PT
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Yeah it was nice. I was actually in my car on the way to do some climbing too when the call came over the radio and I had to detour back to the SAR cache to hike up the trail.
It was real nice up on the John Muir trail yesterday. Right now it's raining, hahaha, what else is new!
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Apr 16, 2006 - 02:15pm PT
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hey Raj, don't be so hard on yourself... you tried a photo TR. The teenage-lust photo was the best though, robots kicking ass is not so interesting (perhaps)... robots making love might have been better received.
Now post something about climbing in the east...
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jack herer
climber
chico, ca
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Apr 16, 2006 - 08:25pm PT
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yeah seriously make a seperate form for LEB, Ramjet, and those that dont care to talk climbing.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Apr 16, 2006 - 09:58pm PT
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If there were a non-climbing forum, maybe, just maybe, people would put the non-climbing stuff in there.
Some of the non-climbing stuff is pretty interesting, some is really stupid, but it all DOES tend to knock the climbing stuff off the front page, and that sucks.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 17, 2006 - 12:36am PT
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This site can be fixed easily.
2 or 3 topics something like this site.
http://www.ccsinfo.com/forum/
You will still have a nice big front page to all your happiness in each of their catagories.
Or leave it this way as it is now and keep on bitching.
I believe people will die here if they find nothing to bitch about or cut someone up into pieces.
Hahaha, carry on ......... also I believe people are scared of change. (little change) = scary?
Big strong, bad ass rock climbers, scared of a forum change, hehehe
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