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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 21, 2006 - 12:41pm PT
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So, you play then? What kind?
Anyone else?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Same place as you, man...... (WB)
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Mar 21, 2006 - 12:58pm PT
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Hold'em mostly. Dealers choice if I've been drinking.... and will go as far as to flip Sweet and Low packets in a heads or tails kinda thing while waiting for the waitress to take our order. Sad, I know....
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Mar 21, 2006 - 01:04pm PT
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Dealer calls when drunk is an excellent idea.
Do you know the game 357?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Mar 21, 2006 - 01:06pm PT
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.357 is for russian roullette.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2006 - 01:25pm PT
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Limit or no limit?
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Same place as you, man...... (WB)
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Mar 21, 2006 - 01:27pm PT
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Limit, no limit, spread limit... tourneys.... It don't matter as long as them cards are in the air and your wallet is accessable.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2006 - 01:31pm PT
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I like tournaments, no limit.
But I'm tired of people who don't have a clue.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Mar 21, 2006 - 01:40pm PT
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I'm anything but tired of people that don't have a clue. I know what dirt is saying but don't tap on the tank - let sleeping fishes sleep.
I'm not so sure everyone does fancy themselves a card player. People just want to get out and gamble. Pot odds? Implied odds? remember... no tapping.
I've played spread limit once. $2/$5 spread. Lots of limping fishes. +$190 that night on three hands. The poor guy that caught the King high straight paid me really well for my broadway straight (we both hit it the gutshot on the turn).
I'm curious - who's read the Harrington books?
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poop*ghost
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:05pm PT
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read and re-read super-systems until I memorized the no-limit section.
read TJ's book - wasn't all that good w/ the theory... interesting stories though.
read Sklansky's Fundamental Theorum of Poker... that was where the straight dope is... brilliant book.
I have my personal rules for limit and no-limit as far as Call, Raise, Re-Raise depending solely on position. Makes poker much less stressful if you know you're not gonna open w/ 55... but you will w/ 99.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:11pm PT
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poop - do you mean sklansky's "The Theory of Poker" book? I just got that book but have not cracked it open.
Sklansky's "Advanced Hold'em" so far has been my best read. It's limit so if that's not your game don't bother. After getting crushed by super loose players I found a bunch of sections in that book that really helped my game.
There's nothing worse than stuffing the pot only to have your rockets cracked cuz some dumbass holding K9o runner-runnered trip 9's. Don't give the clueless player proper pot odds (that they don't realize they have because the've NO clue what pot odds are for their draw). I limp rockets and slick when I'm playing loose passive players. It sure is nice though when you hit your hand and the calling stations keep calling.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Same place as you, man...... (WB)
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:16pm PT
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Note to self: stay away from poop and Nature, unless well practiced in reverse tells, reverse implied odds, reverse psychology, and be sure to keep asking them the rank of hands while scooping pots from them. Tilt is imminent.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:16pm PT
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"Jeez, its gotta be like a northern pike finding itself planted in a California trout lake...
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DMT=the Lake Davis unipiker?
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jesus
Social climber
ca
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:18pm PT
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Inner City
Trad climber
East Bay
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:37pm PT
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talk about off topic chat...this one is at least risk related..pot odds could be translated to climbing i guess. Once "Jesus" enters a thread, it may be time to fold...
love Lowball...
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poop*ghost
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:53pm PT
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Off of the book topic a bit, on the Game Show Network - there's a show called High Stakes or something like that.
The high rollers buy in w/ a minimum of $65k of their own money. Lots of big name players winning and losing HUGE amounts... most buy in for more like 100K - 200K...
I believe Daniel Negreanu is currently stuck for around $500,000.
It's excrutiating and amazing to watch.
RUSS: I'm easy to beat, just keep the drinks coming until I start playing every hand.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Same place as you, man...... (WB)
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Mar 21, 2006 - 02:55pm PT
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I believe Daniel Negreanu is currently stuck for around $500,000.
Who is he? Does he climb?
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2006 - 03:08pm PT
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There's clueless and then there's clueless.
Someone who limps with pocket rockets is asking for trouble.
Someone who limps with JJ and then responds after the flop with a minimum bet, then calls a pot sized raise (the flop shows 6 7 8), then on the turn calls another pot raise (now around 1K) then on the river calls an all in, risking nearly all his chips to do so, is just stupid. That play is almost always going to lose.
Then early in a tourn maybe you get your AA, say the blinds are 500/1K, you bet 4 or 5 K, and FIVE people call it. You can beat one or two idiots with certainty, you can't beat all 5 of em. What's worse is, they call with stuff like J 2.
Read one by Hellmuth, it's good, and one by vines & McEvoy, it's really good, and one other that sucked.
Funny poker story:
In a 6 dollar three table, got to the last 4 places, one was cam neely-- the real cam neely. Got him all in with a slow play, I had two pair (One my 7 7, one an A A on the board), (he had some sort of draw, wound up nothing but a high card it turned out) He tried to bluff me with position, but I had the goods, so no way. So the turn comes, I'm good. On the river, a second pair comes on the board, higher than MY pocket pair, and he wins with his high card as the kicker for the two pair in the board-- my pair got counterfeited on the river.
That's cards.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2006 - 03:10pm PT
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Haha, Russ, you don't want to play Negranau. He wants to play you.
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James
Social climber
My Subconcious
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Mar 21, 2006 - 04:03pm PT
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"You got to know when to hold'em, Know when to fold'em
Know when to walk away, And Know when to run.
You Never count your money When you're sitting at the table
They'll be time enough for countin, When the dealin's done"
The Gambler-Kenny Rogers
"Texas Hold'em is the cadillac of poker"
Doyle Brunson
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Mar 21, 2006 - 04:52pm PT
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It sucks when you know your UTG raise will be called by 5 others and you are holding rockets. They won't win. On loose passive tables you limp with rockets HOPING to flop your set. If not, you fold. If you hit you punish them. I'm talking limit here, not NL where a big bet might make loose/passive go away. I've seen 77 reraised against my rockets only to see them turn the set. AA and the like plays poorly against many and if you can't make 'em go away and you know it that hand is almost worthless.
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