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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 28, 2010 - 09:45pm PT
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...as reported by ABC News this evening... became parents.
Of course I'm talking about Elton John, aged 62 now, and "his husband."
Boy, have times changed. As articulated in the media, too. Of course, conservatives by and large don't like it. (I bet this really winds up old Cragman and Bluering.) What's next, I wonder.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Dec 28, 2010 - 10:29pm PT
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I saw Daddy kissing Santa.....
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Dec 28, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 28, 2010 - 10:32pm PT
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Hmmm, I have some female friends, a couple, who 'slap shoot for the other team', so to speak. One of them was in the habit of referring to her partner as her "husband". She was quite happy to take up my suggestion of instead saying "spouse", or "partner", or even "wife" - the latter for clarity, or in a few cases shock value.
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Phantom X
Trad climber
Honeycomb Hideout
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Dec 28, 2010 - 10:53pm PT
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HFCS Now will you reconsider the plausibility of a spaceark on the moon?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 28, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
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Yeah, that's great, 2 homos get to have son.....
Any feelings for the child raised in that household???? It'll be grand, I'm sure. I mean it's sir Elton. Everything will be normal and grand!
Yeah!!!!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:03pm PT
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Sorry, Matt, bigotry is bred into my bloodline....I can't stop!!!
...whatever, dude.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:04pm PT
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Come on Bluey, the soccer games will be amazing. I have several gay/lesbien friends raising children. It's not a big deal. The kids are well adjusted.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:19pm PT
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Jude, I actually don't reallt care. It's the publicising that this is NORMAL that bugs me. It aint, because I'm obviously a bigot against fags. Whatever.
I'm a trad parent. I believe what I don't have to explain to you. That's all. You know what I mean. I do not hate gays. But I also do not support raising chilren in gay homes. It confuses an innocent mind. It twists it into confusion about a trad marriage and what a mother and father meand to a child.
Call me a bigot, or whatever, a homophobe. Kids need to learn a traditional upbringing where they seek a mate, raise a family, and live their lives together.
If they chose differently, so be it.
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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huff gasoline..that's funny...
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Byran
climber
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:32pm PT
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Kids need to learn a traditional upbringing where they seek a mate, raise a family, and live their lives together.
I think you mean: seek a mate, start a family, get divorced, and live their lives apart.
Since that's the way most "normative" marriages go these days.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:40pm PT
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But I also do not support raising chilren in gay homes. It confuses an innocent mind. It twists it into confusion about a trad marriage and what a mother and father meand to a child
So, what happens twenty-five years from now if that wonderful little guy that you and your wife are raising says "Dad, John and I are going to adopt a child"? Are you going to stand by your principles and tell him "Son, I can sorta turn a blind eye to your faggy love life, but no way am I gonna accept you two queers raising a child."
I'm serious here. What would you say?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:43pm PT
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I think you mean: seek a mate, start a family, get divorced, and live their lives apart.
Since that's the way most "normative" marriages go these days.
Nice try.
The modern American culture is bankrupt in terms of a trad family. EVERYONE is liable to be displaced from loved ones. This is one of the problems.
There is a corruption of the central family and family values. Everything is about more sex, bigger dicks, more titties, and how I can have viable sex with multiple partners.
Who started this trend? Not the fags. It was the pervs in the porn industry. They are they primary blame IMO. But it lead to acceptance of other 'perversions'.
What you cannot see, or fail to see, is that you forgot what turned you on to chicks and what made you want to marry a woman (or man).
Stability, sex on a reasonable basis with a loved one, and the promise of a family and continued passion. And the knowledge that you had commited to raising a family.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:49pm PT
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So, what happens twenty-five years from now if that wonderful little guy that you and your wife are raising says "Dad, John and I are going to adopt a child"? Are you going to stand by your principles and tell him "Son, I can sorta turn a blind eye to your faggy love life, but no way am I gonna accept you two queers raising a child."
I'm serious here. What would you say?
Well, I would have to accept it, right? I would. I would discourage it but would stand behind his further decision.
I guess that is my point. I don't condone it. But I'll accept it if comes down to it. Ya know?
That doesn't mean I'll vote for it though. I stand strictly agaist it.
Sorry.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:52pm PT
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In a few years gay marriege will be a normal part of our society. It's still a little new for those who are not accustomed to change.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:55pm PT
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I guess that is my point. I don't condone it. But I'll accept it if comes down to it. Ya know?
That doesn't mean I'll vote for it though. I stand strictly agaist it.
So, if I understand what you're saying, you would accept a gay couple adopting and raising a child if it happened twenty-some years from now and if one half of that couple was your son, but if it's my son, right now, you won't accept it.
Do you see a contradiction here Steve?
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Sir loin of leisure...
Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:56pm PT
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they throw one hell of a parade...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 28, 2010 - 11:59pm PT
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they throw one hell of a parade...
And they're into ropes, just like us...
A billboard we saw in San Diego, en route to a week in Josh. You probably have to click on it and blow it up to see the rope.
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