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Blakeb
Big Wall climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 23, 2005 - 08:56pm PT
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last year i found it very easy to avoid the rangers as far as my person and baggage were concerned, but where the heck do you people stash your cars?? i got two tickets for parking this summer. I could leave my car with friends outside of the park for a while, but then i have no way to get from say c4 to umm, like generator and conductor near the gate for a good TR workout or other areas that are not as easy to bike or hike to from c4. Any suggestions other than the obvious of leave the car out of the park and hitch in??
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DixieGal
Trad climber
NC
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Dec 24, 2005 - 01:57am PT
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You can legally leave your car in various places. The most
obvious place is right in front of El Cap. The assumption
is that you are bivvying on the wall, but this is really
hard to verify. You are also allowed to park in certain
parking lots in Yosemite Village and Curry Village. This
is inconvenient if you are staying in camp 4, and probably
deliberately designed by the park service to prevent people
from dirtbagging in camp 4. I'd say screw the park service,
park right in front of El Cap, and bivvy 10 or 20 feet off
the ground.
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lucho
Gym climber
San Franpsycho
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Dec 24, 2005 - 02:50am PT
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I dont think you can "dirtbag it" at Camp 4 anymore those days are over. You cannot leave your car anywhere, you cant even stay for more than a couple weeks before you are noticed by the rangers. I would just forget about trying to dirtbag it in the valley and tuolumne for that matter. It just isnt possible anymore, I think most folks on here would agree with me on this.
Sorry dude.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Dec 24, 2005 - 03:10am PT
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Dirtbags dont have cars
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Chris W
climber
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Dec 24, 2005 - 11:44am PT
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Lucho is right, not possible to Dirtbag in the valley anymore. If i was you, get a place in El Portal or stay further down in the campground down there. It sucks and costs driving time and gas, but it's worth not getting tooled. You actually get more climbing in. Your energy is directed towards climbing and not advoiding the Rangers.
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Holdplease2
Big Wall climber
Yosemite area
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Dec 24, 2005 - 12:07pm PT
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Things have changed dramatically in Yosemite since i've been here the last few years. You can't even park at the lodge for breakfast or dinner without risking towing/ticketing/harassment. And I leave the park every night because I live here.
The parking below El Cap is now so abused by people who are NOT on walls, combined with day use by tourists/climbers, that people who are actually trying to climb must often parallel park or circle for parking spaces to carry loads during the day.
Last summer from El Cap, I saw the rangers going into El Cap meadow with search lights on a regular basis. I wouldn't even think about trying to sleep there or in the surrounding woods.
My bet is that continued abuse of this overnight parking and so-called bandit campers will result in people who ARE actualy climbing being required to get permits to park there, or not be allowed overnight parking at all.
Rangers are now doing "evening patrols" at the base of el cap, asking everyone where they are going to bivy that night. Now why do you think that they are doing this? People trying to buck the system results in the system getting worse.
-Kate.
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Blakeb
Big Wall climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 24, 2005 - 02:19pm PT
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Thanks for all of the advice you guys and gals. I have a friend in toulumne working for the park service and i was thinking about keeping my car with him some of the summer and rotating from their and the valley if i dont in fact get a job in the valley. However parking in el portal sounds like a good idea. Kate or anyone else living in el portal out there that has a sweet heart, i would be more than willing to donate to your own causes a sum of 200 bucks or so as a gift, for a gift of a parking spot when needed. This wouldnt be everyday by any means at all, because as i said i will be in toulumne some and hopefully on the wall some as well. Any help is appreciated, climb on.
PS: nice plants ouch!! woo, and dixie im from NC originally, grew up in Chapel Hill, where are you at?
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Dapper Dan
climber
The OC
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Dec 24, 2005 - 04:13pm PT
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dude get in tight with a few employees , they will tell you how to grift in the valley off of the DNC . dirtbagging is not dead . i spent all last summer sleeping in my car in full view of one of the main valley roads and passing rangers , i had showers whenever i wanted as well as a stove and storage lockers . think outside the bear box......
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Dec 24, 2005 - 05:42pm PT
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I wouldn't recommend folks to stash cars at El Cap. It's just inviting trouble to all climbers.
What's wrong with leaving the car at Camp 6 parking across from the village?
Peace
karl
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